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I want to connect different LUTs together on a Virtex chip. For example, connecting output of F-LUT Slice 0 Column 1 Row 1 to one of the inputs of G-LUT Slice 1 Column 2 Row 1. Is it possible to put such low-level constraints, to a design, by any of the development tools available for Virtex ? Article 18558 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18301
Use RLOC's to constrain the placement. You'll also need to define the contents of the LUT to nail the logic to the LUT. For Virtex you can use the LUT primitive or you can use an FMAP to specify the partitioning. The LUT primitive needs an INIT= attribute to specify the contents, while the FMAP shows the mapping of other logic to the LUT. If you are using VHDL, you'll have to use the EQN attribute with the FMAP to specify the logic. With schematics, the FMAP can be put in parallel with the logic it is to contain. You can also put the luts into specific locations using the graphical floorplanner. The VHDL snippets below show one way of constraining some combinatorial logic to a specific location. In this case, the 3 input comb. function fmap_xnor3 is defined by a separate entity with the xc_xmap=lut attribute. That contains the logic in a lut. Then when that component is instantiated, an rloc string is attached to the component label. Here it is constrained to row 10, column 20, LUT F in slice 0. entity fmap_xnor3 is port ( a, b, c : in std_logic; z : out std_logic); end fmap_xnor3; architecture rtl of fmap_xnor3 is attribute xc_map : STRING; attribute xc_map of rtl : architecture is "lut"; begin z <= not a xor b xor c; end rtl; entity test is .... end test architecture structural of test is attribute RLOC: string; attribute RLOC of U1 : label is "R10C20.F.S0"; begin U1: fmap_xnor3 port map( a=> a(i), b=> b(i), c=> add, z=> l); Espen Tislevoll wrote: > I want to connect different LUTs together on a Virtex chip. > For example, connecting output of F-LUT Slice 0 Column 1 Row 1 to one of the > inputs of G-LUT Slice 1 Column 2 Row 1. > > Is it possible to put such low-level constraints, to a design, by any of the > development tools available for Virtex ? -- -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email randraka@ids.net http://users.ids.net/~randraka Article 18559 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18302
Nova Engineering, Inc. is another place to look at for Altera development boards: http://www.nova-eng.com/constellation.html Most of the boards are one week delivery or less. VHDL Megafunctions are available from the same company: http://www.nova-eng.com/vhdl.html In article <ksoL3.18$Eb6.1816@typhoon-sf.snfc21.pbi.net>, "Steven K. Knapp" <sknapp@optimagic.com> wrote: > I believe that the correct links are shown below. > > http://www.tzkom.de/service/devboard.htm > > http://www.tzkom.de/service/devboard_e.htm > > There is another page for these boards on the related Alcatel site at > http://www.alcatel.de/telecom/asd/test_hw/devboards.htm. You may also be > interested in the fairly comprehensive list of boards available at > http://www.optimagic.com/boards.html. > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Steven K. Knapp > OptiMagic, Inc. -- "Great Designs Happen 'OptiMagic'-ally" > E-mail: sknapp@optimagic.com > Web: http://www.optimagic.com > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > <lothar_brodbeck@my-deja.com> wrote in message > news:7tks00$il3$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > > Hello reader, > > > > I would announce two development boards. The two boards are useful for > > ASIC prototyping and simulation as well as for other purposes. > > We and some other companies (Alcatel, Rhode&Schwarz, Siemens, > > Wandel&Goltermann, ...) already used the boards to verify our > > designs. > > > > Examples: > > > > - DSP algorithms written in VHDL > > - behaviour of PLL circuits > > - building of complex test equipment > > - call simulator for 480 subscribers > > - etc. > > > > > > Short description of the boards: > > > > Altera FLEX10K development board: > > > > - up to 400.000 logical gates > > - 2 slots for external memory (standard SIMM modules) > > - PBA size 233mm*210mm > > - 5V or 3.3V operation voltage (depending on used FPGAs) > > - breadboard area for user applications > > - on board reset circuit > > - ... > > > > > > Altera FLEX8K development board: > > > > - up to 20.000 logical gates > > - PBA size 233mm*160mm > > - board splittable into 2 times 100mm*160mm > > - 5V operation voltage > > - breadboard area for user applications > > - on board reset circuit > > - ... > > > > For more information about the development boards use one of > > the possibilities listed below. > > > > Web-Site: 1st page: > > http://www.tzkom.de > > > > development boards page: > > http://www.tzkom.de/kompetenz/nt/devboard.htm > > > > (English: sorry not the final version > > http://www.tzkom.de/kompetenz/nt/devboard_e.htm) > > > > Email: Lothar.Brodbeck@tzkom.de . > > > > > > Kind Regards > > > > Lothar Brodbeck > > > > > > p.s.: > > > > An user wrote: ... we successfully used the Altera FLEX10K board to > > verify our complex signal processing algorithm. > > ... The > > programming and the handling of the evaluation > > board > > stands out. ... > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 18560 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18303
hello, can anybody tell me or point me in the direction of .cal or .rbt file format specification. Also is there software which can convert a cal file to a .edn or .des file? My knowledge of VHDL is very limited and I am interested in working the binary/ascii files that are actually written to a Xilinx 6216 for a cybernetics project. Any help or advice is much appreciated. James Birmingham shu96jb@reading.ac.uk Article 18561 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18304
Hi! >Hi, > >I've written some time ago that i need the schematic >for the Lattice ISP-Cable. >Some of you told me i could find the schematic >at the Lattice webpage. Everything about download cable: http://www.hszk.bme.hu/~fa218/Download/Lattice_download_cable.zip >I only could find the PIN-configuration for the cable from >the PARALLEL-ADAPTER to the board that includes the ISP >and not for the PARALLEL-ADAPTER itself. >So it would be great if you could give me the exact URL (not >only www.latticesemi.com )or send me the pdf-file direct via email. Arnold Article 18578 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18305
Looking for an Atmel 6K designer. Video experience helpful. Send resumes or email to bsmaxxllridge@sighxxtech.coxxm and remove the xx Article 18563 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18306
Thanks to everybody for your input. It seems that we had a bad device. We assembled another board and now can detect the device. Still having some problems with programming it but it is a different issue. Mikhail Matusov Article 18562 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18307
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Hello I would like to ask if any people used Altera's new device APEX. It seems unable to tolerate +5.0 Volt. Any idea? -- Hong Kong Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 18568 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18309
Dear Colleagues, The submission deadline for the 10th Great Lakes Symposium on VLSI has been extended from: October 15, 1999 to: October 22, 1999 Attached, you will find the updated call for papers. Regards, Amir Farrahi Publicity Chair for the GLSVLSI-2000 =============================================================================== CALL FOR PAPERS Tenth Great Lakes Symposium on VLSI (GLSVLSI-2000) March 2-4, 2000 Northwestern University Evanston, Illinois In Cooperation with ACM SIGDA, IEEE http://domino.watson.ibm.com/gls2000/glsvlsi_2000.nsf glsvlsi@watson.ibm.com =============================================================================== The 10th Great Lakes Symposium on VLSI will be sponsored by the IEEE Computer Society and hosted by Northwestern University, Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering. Original, unpublished papers, describing research in the general area of VLSI are solicited. Authors should clearly state their contribution to the state-of-the-art. Both theoretical and experimental research results are welcome. Proceedings will be available at the Symposium. Topics of interest will include, but are not limited to: 1. VLSI System Design. Design of low power systems, microprocessors and micro-architectures, embedded processors, ASIC systems, mixed analog and digital VLSI systems, multi-chip modules, 2. Computer-Aided Design. Hardware/software co-design, logic and behavioral synthesis, simulation and formal verification, layout tools partitioning, placement, routing, floorplanning, compaction, etc.), digital testing and testable design, analog testing and mixed mode testing, VLSI algorithms and complexity analysis, 3. VLSI Circuits. RF and communication circuits, low power circuit techniques, analog and digital circuits, chaos, neural and fuzzy logic circuits, high- speed circuit design techniques, 4. Nanotechnology. Emerging technologies (resonant tunneling devices, single electron transistors, quantum devices, molecular electronics), circuit design using quantum electronic devices, modeling and simulation tools for nanoelectronic devices and circuits, 5. Micro-Electro-Mechanical Systems (MEMS). MEMS technology and system design, CAD tools for MEMS, MEMS applications for wireless communications. IMPORTANT DATES: Submission Deadline: October 22, 1999 Acceptance Notification: November 19, 1999 Camera-Ready Paper Due: December 10, 1999 SUBMISSION OF PAPERS: Authors should submit full-length, original, unpublished papers (maximum 15 pages double spaced) along with an abstract of at most 200 words and contact information (name, street/mailing address, telephone,/fax, e-mail). Previously published papers or papers submitted for publication to other conferences/journals will not be considered. Electronic submission via uuencoded e-mail is required. Please email a single postscript file, formatted for 8 1/2" x 11" paper, compressed with Unix "compress" or "gzip" to: kaushik@ecn.purdue.edu CONTACT INFORMATION: Email: glsvlsi@watson.ibm.com Web: http://domino.watson.ibm.com/gls2000/glsvlsi_2000.nsf SYMPOSIUM ORGANIZATION: General Chairs: M. Sarrafzadeh (Northwestern) P. Banerjee (Northwestern) Steering Committee Chair: N. Sherwani (Intel) Program Chair: K. Roy (Purdue) Program Committee: J. Abraham (UT-Austin) V. Agrawal (Lucent) D. Bouldin (U. Tennessee) S. Blanton (CMU) A. Chandrakasan (MIT) J. Cong (UCLA) A. Farrahi (IBM) J. Figueras (U. Catalunya, Spain) E. Friedman (U. Rochester) I. Hajj (UIUC) S. Kang (UIUC) C.-K. Koh (Purdue) E. Macii (Torino, Italy) P. Mazumder (U. Michigan) K. Muhammad (TI) S. Nag (Xilinx) K. Parhi (U. Minnesota) S. Raje (Monterey Design) D. Somasekhar (Intel) K. Usami (Toshiba, Japan) Publication Chair: C.-K. Koh (Purdue) Publicity Chair: A. Farrahi (IBM) Local Chair: J. Crenshaw (Motorola) Finance Chair: J. Lavelle (Northwestern) =============================================================================== Article 18569 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18310
Hi, I had a similar problem. You may be able to solve your problem by doing the following. 1) Fix your original design by back-annotating the project 2) re-run the synthesis with everything fixed but output an AHDL results file. This should output multiple design files representing each module of your design 3) If you know where the Flop is to be added you should be able to manually insert it in the AHDL file. 4) re-synthesize with the AHDL as source - you should get the same result with the new flop added it - hopefully in a reasonal place. If not you can manually add alocation property to the new device. Regards Mike Harwood Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.Article: 18311
The XNF files are the old netlist format for input to the place and route tools. You can't put an xnf file directly into the device. The Xilinx devices do not get programmed by a 'programmer', as they are SRAM based devices. SRAM based devices hold their program only as long as power is applied to the part. Turn off power and poof, no program. The bitstream generated by the xilinx tools is normally programmed either in a PROM (serial or byte wide) or written to a file that is used by a microprocessor in the system with the FPGA to load the FPGA. In any case, you will need to obtain the xilinx place and route tools which will translate the xnf or edif netlist generated by your design capture or synthesis tool to a bitstream. Check the xilinx website http://www.xilinx.com for more information. Sharad Kumar wrote: > Hi, > > I am interested in downloading my design in the xilinx netlist file format (.xnf) onto a Xilinx FPGA. > I wated to to know what kind of device programmers are available, what would be a good option and > where I can get more information about it. I am keen to use either the Xilinx -4000 series or the > Xilinx Virtex series of FPGA's. > > thanks, sharad -- -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email randraka@ids.net http://users.ids.net/~randraka Article 18573 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18312
Hi, I am interested in downloading my design in the xilinx netlist file format (.xnf) onto a Xilinx FPGA. I wated to to know what kind of device programmers are available, what would be a good option and where I can get more information about it. I am keen to use either the Xilinx -4000 series or the Xilinx Virtex series of FPGA's. thanks, sharad Article 18571 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18313
This may be a stupid question, but I'm pretty new to the PLD world, so here goes: Basically, I have a Lattice in-circuit programmable ispLSI 1016 that is not read-protected. I need to read it out and re-write it to another identical part in an updated board in order to test my circuit changes (to the board, not the PLD programming). The writing part is easy, as it's an in-circuit programmable part, and there is a program to do that through the PC parallel port on their website, however it doesn't seem to have any provisions for reading the chip. Thanks in advance. jds Article 18574 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18314
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Hi, Does anyone know where I find a PCI Board with a Virtex Chip? I found the following two companies: Avnet: http://www.em.avnet.com/semi/marketing/xlx-19990526semw.html Embedded Solutions Ltd ( RC1000-PP) I need any helpful information so I can choose a good board. Abdul Article 18576 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18316
Have a look at the optimagic web side. You will find all available FPGA boards there. http://www.optimagic.com/index.shtml abdulqadir alaqeeli schrieb: > > Hi, > Does anyone know where I find a PCI Board with a Virtex Chip? > I found the following two companies: > Avnet: http://www.em.avnet.com/semi/marketing/xlx-19990526semw.html > Embedded Solutions Ltd ( RC1000-PP) > > I need any helpful information so I can choose a good board. > > Abdul -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Simmler Lehrstuhl fuer Informatik V Universitaet Mannheim Tel: +49-621-181-2632 ! NEW ! B6, 26 Fax: +49-621-181-2634 ! NEW ! D-68131 Mannheim eMail: simmler@ti.uni-mannheim.de Germany Article 18577 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18317
When I try to compile a vhdl code for simulation with Synopsys tools and the following command, --- vhdlan -nc -check -w mylib ./mydesign.vhd --- the vhdl code is analyzed, but there come warning messages like --- Warning: vhdlan, 1500 ./mydesign.vhd(321): Error compiling file : ./mylib/mydesign__RTL.c, Reverting to Interpreted code for design unit : RTL. Warning: vhdlan, 1504 ./mydesign.vhd(321): The C compiler, specified as /opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc, doesn't work properly. Change CS_CCPATH in the setup file or specify a path by the -ccpath option. Reverting to Interpreted Code. --- I don't think there's really a problem with the specified C compiler since it exists and works well with C code. I also tried changing the -ccpath option to /usr/ucb/cc, but the result is same. Could anybody please help me with this? TIA, Ben -- Ben Hong Future Systems, Inc. Phone : +82-2-578-0581 (ext. 533) Fax : +82-2-578-0584 Email : ejhong@future.co.kr Article 18579 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18318
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Hi, I need detailed virtex FPGA PCI select I/O (PCI33_5,PCI33_3, PCI66_3) characteristics, especially their timing and delay specifications. Please specify where to find it, if anybody knows. Mahboob Ahmed And-Or Logic Inc. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 18580 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18320
go to http://www.optimagic.com there is a fairly comprehensive list of boards on that site. abdulqadir alaqeeli wrote: > Hi, > Does anyone know where I find a PCI Board with a Virtex Chip? > I found the following two companies: > Avnet: http://www.em.avnet.com/semi/marketing/xlx-19990526semw.html > Embedded Solutions Ltd ( RC1000-PP) > > I need any helpful information so I can choose a good board. > > Abdul -- -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email randraka@ids.net http://users.ids.net/~randraka Article 18581 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18321
Need more info. Presumably for an FPGA, but which one? How many bits? If it is an FPGA with a carry chain (xilinx, altera or lucent) then it is hard to beat the ripple carry adder using the carry chain for widths up to about 32 bits. If that is the case, look at the vendor literature and if you can, the insides of their macros for an idea of how they are put togehter. Victor Levandovsky wrote: > :)) -- -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email randraka@ids.net http://users.ids.net/~randraka Article 18582 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18322
Hello! I want to know how I can estimate the necessary gates used by my design in a Xilinx Virtex. In another message I read that a LUT is about 4.5 Gates. OK. But my Synthesis-Tool (Leonardo Spectrum) outputs IOBUF, MUX etc., too. Are there any numbers for this blocks, too? Thomas Article 18583 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18323
Hi Abdul, You could try Alpha Data http://www.alphadata.co.uk they have PCI and PMC based Virtex boards. abdulqadir alaqeeli wrote in message ... >Hi, >Does anyone know where I find a PCI Board with a Virtex Chip? >I found the following two companies: >Avnet: http://www.em.avnet.com/semi/marketing/xlx-19990526semw.html >Embedded Solutions Ltd ( RC1000-PP) > >I need any helpful information so I can choose a good board. Article 18584 of comp.arch.fpga:Article: 18324
Hi, I need any one of the following Lucent FPGAs in a 100-pin TQFP as soon as possible: OR2C04A4-T100 OR2C04A3-T100 OR2C06A4-T100 OR2C06A3-T100 Anyone have one of these laying around? -- Don Husby <husby@fnal.gov> http://www-ese.fnal.gov/people/husby Fermi National Accelerator Lab Phone: 630-840-3668 Batavia, IL 60510 Fax: 630-840-5406 Article 18585 of comp.arch.fpga:
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