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I'm not using Foundation, but in other tools, the DFF value assigned on asynchronous reset is also the initial value when it completes the configuration phase. At least, that's what I've observed using Synplify with Xilinx 4000 and Virtex FPGA's. The down side of this solution is that you'd need to create a reset signal which you don't plan on using. Cheers, Jamie "Steven Derrien" <sderrien@irisa.fr> wrote in message news:3909CEE7.706C8F50@irisa.fr... > Hello, > > I'd like to have a regsietr in my design initialized to a certain value > without the need for a Reset signal, is there any way to specify a > register initial value in VHDL for foundation express ? > > Thanks > > StevenArticle: 22201
Try the "Running Foundation from a Makefile" document which is available from http://www.xess.com/fndmake.pdf - also see example at http://www.xess.com/fndmake.zip Mark Harvey. VIRMAN <w.cherry@virinc.com> wrote in message news:sgr5rg67oog90@corp.supernews.com... > Hi; > > Does anyone know if there is a "make" file in cpld implementation for > xilinx similar to "C". The reason i ask is i have a cpld design that is > used on six different projects and the only thing that changes between these > projects is a board ID register in the xilinx. I wanted to know about > "make" files because i was wondering if i would be able to compile the cpld > design six different ways instead of having six different projects that each > need to be compiled. This will make maintenance of the design easier in the > future, because i will only need to change one schematic and comile it six > ways instead of changing six schematics and compiling each. > Any info will be helpfull. > > thanks > wes > >Article: 22202
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------26ED620143389CD6EB2443FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a small correction if you are using Foundation 2.1: you will need to remove the call to hprep6 in the makefile since that program doesn't exist anymore. No other changes are needed as far as I can tell. Mark Harvey wrote: > Try the "Running Foundation from a Makefile" document which is available > from http://www.xess.com/fndmake.pdf - also see example at > http://www.xess.com/fndmake.zip > > Mark Harvey. > > VIRMAN <w.cherry@virinc.com> wrote in message > news:sgr5rg67oog90@corp.supernews.com... > > Hi; > > > > Does anyone know if there is a "make" file in cpld implementation for > > xilinx similar to "C". The reason i ask is i have a cpld design that is > > used on six different projects and the only thing that changes between > these > > projects is a board ID register in the xilinx. I wanted to know about > > "make" files because i was wondering if i would be able to compile the > cpld > > design six different ways instead of having six different projects that > each > > need to be compiled. This will make maintenance of the design easier in > the > > future, because i will only need to change one schematic and comile it six > > ways instead of changing six schematics and compiling each. > > Any info will be helpfull. > > > > thanks > > wes > > > > -- || Dr. Dave Van den Bout XESS Corp. (919) 387-0076 || || devb@xess.com 2608 Sweetgum Dr. (800) 549-9377 || || http://www.xess.com Apex, NC 27502 USA FAX:(919) 387-1302 || --------------26ED620143389CD6EB2443FB Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="devb.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Dave Vanden Bout Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="devb.vcf" begin:vcard n:Vanden Bout;Dave tel;fax:(919) 387-1302 tel;work:(919) 387-0076 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.xess.com org:XESS Corp. adr:;;2608 Sweetgum Drive;Apex;NC;27502;USA version:2.1 email;internet:devb@xess.com title:FPGA Product Manager x-mozilla-cpt:;-16464 fn:Dave Vanden Bout end:vcard --------------26ED620143389CD6EB2443FB--Article: 22203
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9159360DC3B6ECD932DC9517 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is shortened press-release about the new myCSoC Kit from XESS Corp. You can get more information by following the links from http://www.xess.com. XESS Introduces Low-Cost Triscend CSoC Development Kit for the Education Market Apex, NC - May 1, 2000 - XESS Corp. announces the availability of its myCSoC Kit which supports hardware and software development with Triscend Configurable System-on-Chip (CSoC) devices. While this low-cost kit was designed for the educational market, it is also a general-purpose development tool for applications in communications, multimedia, and consumer electronics. The Kit includes a copy of the FastChip development software, a CDROM tutorial on designing with CSoC devices, a prototyping board with a TE505 CSoC, a power supply and a downloading cable. The tutorial shows how the FastChip software is used to configure the TE505's embedded programmable logic into peripheral functions that cooperate with the integrated 8032 microcontroller core. Each example design can be downloaded into 1-Mb of Flash or SRAM on the prototyping board and tested at speeds up to 25 MHz. The board has 80 general-purpose I/O pins for connections to external devices as well as connectors for a keyboard/mouse and a VGA monitor. The myCSoC Kit will be available in mid-May for $169.95 from XESS Corporation (www.xess.com / 800-549-9377). # # # Notes: XESS and myCSoC Kit are trademarks of XESS Corp. Triscend, E5, FastChip, and Configurable System-on-Chip for Communications are trademarks of Triscend Corporation. All other products and brands are the property of their respective holders. -- || Dr. Dave Van den Bout XESS Corp. (919) 387-0076 || || devb@xess.com 2608 Sweetgum Dr. (800) 549-9377 || || http://www.xess.com Apex, NC 27502 USA FAX:(919) 387-1302 || --------------9159360DC3B6ECD932DC9517 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="devb.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Dave Vanden Bout Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="devb.vcf" begin:vcard n:Vanden Bout;Dave tel;fax:(919) 387-1302 tel;work:(919) 387-0076 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.xess.com org:XESS Corp. adr:;;2608 Sweetgum Drive;Apex;NC;27502;USA version:2.1 email;internet:devb@xess.com title:FPGA Product Manager x-mozilla-cpt:;-16464 fn:Dave Vanden Bout end:vcard --------------9159360DC3B6ECD932DC9517--Article: 22204
Well, this newsgroup is supposed to be technical, not commercial. But (the other) Peter asked the question, and here is the answer: As of May 2000 you can buy an XC2S15 in quantity 1 through 24 for $ 7.10 : You get 96 CLBs, i.e 384 LUT / flip-flop combinations ( Logic Cells ) plus four dual-ported BlockRAMs, each 4096 bits plus four DLLs plus 60 I/Os with lots of options. That's less than 2 cents per flip-flop plus associated logic, with 16K bits of RAM and four DLLs thrown in for free. We just finished the design of a 256-deep, 16-wide FIFO with independent read and write clocks running >100 MHz, that uses only half the memory plus 10% of the CLBs on this chip. "This is not your father's XC3020 anymore..." Peter Alfke ======================== Peter wrote: > Xilinx are busy churning out devices with billions of gates, and the > cost per gate is certainly falling. > > But they don't seem to do something for say $2 - at the same cost per > gate this should yield a few thousand gates, for the cost of a low > power 22V10. > > I know Xilinx etc are growing and doing well, but the fact remains > that only a very tiny proportion of today's products actually contains > an FPGA. Far more designs use a PLD somewhere, with some ordinary > logic as well. > > A few years ago I met a large direct Xilinx user who said he was > getting the XC3020 for $4.50 on a 50k/year quantity - so low prices > are possible but only in vast quantities, and such prices would never > be officially mentioned. > > Peter. > -- > Return address is invalid to help stop junk mail. > E-mail replies to zX80@digiYserve.com but remove the X and the Y. > Please do NOT copy usenet posts to email - it is NOT necessary.Article: 22205
Greetings This is semimonthly announcement of Verilog FAQ. Verilog FAQ is located at http://www.angelfire.com/in/verilogfaq/ Alternate Verilog FAQ is an attempt to gather the answers to most Frequently Asked Questions about Verilog HDL in one place. It also contains list of publications, services, and products. Alternate Verilog FAQ is divided into three logical parts. Part 1 : Introduction and misc. questions Part 2 : Technical Topics Part 3 : Tools and Services What's New section outlines the changes in different versions and announcements. Links connects you to related informative links in internet. Your suggestions to make this FAQ more informative are welcome. Rajesh Bawankule (Also Visit Verilog Center : http://www.angelfire.com/in/rajesh52/verilog.html ) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.Article: 22206
antera@mweb.co.za (Anton Erasmus) writes: > Hi, > > I Have done some simple EPLD designs in AHDL, but I want to start to > use Verilog and/or VHDL. Unfortuanetly the Free License version of > Alteras Max+Plus II does not support Verilog and VHDL. Is there a free > Compiler which I can use to test Compile simple Verilog and maybe > simulate ? Have you been to www.altera.com recently? If I understand them correctly, they will give away FPGA express and/or another synthesis tool (in a special OEM version) for free (starting in some weeks). chm. -- cmautner@ - Christian Mautner utanet.at - Vienna/Austria/EuropeArticle: 22207
The XCV50E-6CS144C is $33.25 in single quantities on Avnet. Seems this is preety close to what you want, no? Theron Hicks wrote: > Rickman wrote: > > > Peter wrote: > > ... I would love a small Virtex-E series part (fast, with LVPECL I/O > capability). > For that part I would probably be willing to pay as much as $30 or more. > (If it were fast enough.) -- -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email randraka@ids.net http://users.ids.net/~randrakaArticle: 22208
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------84101979D6C45B8D8BA1037A Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------71B3C82BC58701BCA1A5FF7F" --------------71B3C82BC58701BCA1A5FF7F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, Our Design Center in Nashua NH is expanding and currently has one opening for a Applications Engineer. If anyone is interested in the position please contact me directly. Thanks, Vern Email : dunbrack@xilinx.com Phone : (603)891-1096 x15 Job Title: Applications Engineer Job Responsibilities: Responsible for providing support for Xilinx Field Sales in the Boston market with design win activities, by providing technical support for strategic customers including Design Reviews, HDL code optimization, point solution IP generation and running the Xilinx place and route software. Other activities include working closely with the field and factory to analyze and solve strategic customer problems, creation of application notes, reference designs, training modules and become an expert in all aspects of Xilinx architectures and software. Job Requirements: BSEE or MSEE with 5+ years of experience in FPGA or ASIC design. Looking for candidates with experience in high-speed design techniques with logic design experience using Verilog/VHDL languages and a high level of experience with synthesis tools. Experience should include FPGA, system and board level design responsibilities in: Networking, Telecommunications, Wireless Communications and/or Embedded System Designs. --------------71B3C82BC58701BCA1A5FF7F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Hello All, <p>Our Design Center in Nashua NH is expanding and currently has one opening for a Applications Engineer. If anyone is interested in the position please contact me directly. <p>Thanks, <br>Vern <br>Email : dunbrack@xilinx.com <br>Phone : (603)891-1096 x15<b></b> <p><b>Job Title: </b>Applications Engineer <br> <p><b>Job Responsibilities: </b> Responsible for providing support for Xilinx Field Sales in the Boston market with design win activities, by providing technical support for strategic customers including Design Reviews, HDL code optimization, point solution IP generation and running the Xilinx place and route software. Other activities include working closely with the field and factory to analyze and solve strategic customer problems, creation of application notes, reference designs, training modules and become an expert in all aspects of Xilinx architectures and software. <br> <p><b>Job Requirements: </b> BSEE or MSEE with 5+ years of experience in FPGA or ASIC design. Looking for candidates with experience in high-speed design techniques with logic design experience using Verilog/VHDL languages and a high level of experience with synthesis tools. Experience should include FPGA, system and board level design responsibilities in: Networking, Telecommunications, Wireless Communications and/or Embedded System Designs. <br> </html> --------------71B3C82BC58701BCA1A5FF7F-- --------------84101979D6C45B8D8BA1037A Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="dunbrack.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Vern Dunbrack Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dunbrack.vcf" begin:vcard n:Dunbrack;Vern tel;fax:(603)891-0890 tel;work:(603)891-1096 x15 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:<img src="http://www.xilinx.com/images/xlogoc.gif"> adr:;;61 Spit Brook Road;Nashua;NH;03060; version:2.1 email;internet:dunbrack@xilinx.com title:Design Center Manager fn:Vern Dunbrack end:vcard --------------84101979D6C45B8D8BA1037A--Article: 22209
Thanks for your reply David. I have finally succeeded in instantiating the lpm_rom module in VHDL as a black box in Synplify following some guidelines, that I found by accident on the Altera site as I was searching for something else. When you say that Synplify can actually undestand the Altera LPM, do you mean that it is able to generate and edif netlist without the need to pass through the Maxplus2? If so, this would be great for my design since I could then bypass the Maxplus2 tool and perform some functional simulations. If that is is what you mean, could you please outline briefly what I need to do in synplify to achieve this. So far I have been stuck compiling the entire netlist downto to the fpga level before I could any type of 3rd party simulation, and the only kind at this level is timing. I know from experience that xilinx allows the user to quickly compile a design into a single netlist (which may include a combination of VHDL and CoreGEN modules), which can later be imported into a 3rd party simulation tool for functional simulation, before placing and routing the design. On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:58:20 -0400, David Bishop <dbishop@vhdl.org> wrote: > >Synplicity can actually understand the Altera LPMs used by Maxplus2, >as long as it's JUST the lpms. > >First off, in Maxplus2 land, the wizard "need some work". If you want >a ROM, use "genmem". It's an older tool, but it works consistantly >for the Flex10K parts. Just type "genmem -help" and it will tell you >what it needs. You still need to generate a MIF file, and feed that >to the "LPM_FILE" generic.Article: 22210
Dave Vanden Bout wrote: > Just a small correction if you are using Foundation 2.1: you will need to remove the call to hprep6 in the makefile since that program doesn't exist anymore. No other changes are needed as far as I can tell. You mean ``hplusas6'' don't you. hprep6 is the essential thing that actually generates the JEDEC file for CPLDs. Also I find it useful in my make file to have general suffix based rules of the form: .v.edn: <Run your Verilog synth tool here> .edn.ngd: ngdbuild .... for CPLDs you might then have something like .ngd.jed: hitop ... hprep6 ... These can then be kept in a common file & included in the project makefiles. That way your build chain is always the same for the same class of device. One thing that would make this easier for CPLDs would a description somewhere of the command line options to hitop & hprep6. I've decoded the hprep ones, does anyone know the hitop ones ?Article: 22211
Nestor wrote: > > Thanks for your reply David. > > I have finally succeeded in instantiating the lpm_rom module in VHDL > as a black box in Synplify following some guidelines, that I found by > accident on the Altera site as I was searching for something else. Yes, the Altera and Xilinx web sites are very useful. I wouldn't want to tackel one of these big FPGAs without web access these days. That is once you get over all of the bugs in their examples. > When you say that Synplify can actually undestand the Altera LPM, do > you mean that it is able to generate and edif netlist without the need > to pass through the Maxplus2? If so, this would be great for my > design since I could then bypass the Maxplus2 tool and perform some > functional simulations. If that is is what you mean, could you please > outline briefly what I need to do in synplify to achieve this. So far > I have been stuck compiling the entire netlist downto to the fpga > level before I could any type of 3rd party simulation, and the only > kind at this level is timing. Synplicity has the Altera lpm library built into it. Thus, when you say "library lpm" it knows what you mean. Maxplus2 will find the correct file (tdf?) along it's default search path. > I know from experience that xilinx > allows the user to quickly compile a design into a single netlist > (which may include a combination of VHDL and CoreGEN modules), which > can later be imported into a 3rd party simulation tool for functional > simulation, before placing and routing the design. "quickly" is a relative term. M2.1i_sp6 can run for days. However, when you run "ngd2vhdl" remember to set the switches, they can make your life debugging your design alot easier. -- NAME: David W. Bishop INTERNET: dbishop@vhdl.org ( \ ) US MAIL: Hilton NY 14468-9101 A Long time ago, \__\/ PHYSICAL: 43:17:17N 77:47:37W 281' In a Galaxy far, far away... | | For Supernova info: http://www.ggw.org/asras/snimages | | For VHDL/Synthesis info: http://www.vhdl.org/siwg _/___\_ All standard disclaimers apply. [_______]Article: 22212
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In article <3909B421.60E@ecs.soton.ac.uk.nojunk>, Tim Forcer <tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk.nojunk> wrote: > Peter Alfke wrote: > > > > For a mature, high-yielding product family, the die > > cost is essentially proportional to die area. Therefore, > > the price will, to the first approximation, be proportional to > > area, i.e. number of CLBs. ... > > > > There are two important additional modifiers: > > At the low end, the relatively higher package cost often > > results in a disproportionally higher price. > > At the high end, especially with a young family, the > > lower yield of the biggest chips ( suffering most from > > the defect density on the wafer) makes > > them overproportionally expensive. > > > > ... > > Ah, if only it were that simple. > > Several additional points. > > The newer TECHNOLOGY silicon can be much cheaper (partly because die > area is lower, because fab standards have moved on), so Xilinx 3V/3.3V > parts are often much cheaper than 5V equivalents. > > Package type can have an enormous influence on cost, far outweighing die > size. > > Pin count will affect cost - go for the smallest number of pins > consistent with design needs. Exact relationship between pins and > pounds (or dollars) depends on package type. Some package styles are > easier to bond out than others, so their per-pin cost isn't so > significant in the overall equation. > > Unless you are going for large quantities, actual costs will be > influenced by "pack size". Many FPGAs are shipped in pre-packaged > containers. The number per pack depends on package type and size. Many > distributors will not split packs - if only because of the resultant > hassle of maintaining dry atmosphere of the part-packs. > > For various reasons, I've recently had to buy XC4013s in pin grid array > (223 pins). For slowest speed grade 5V parts I've paid almost 250 GBP > (including VAT) each. That's US$ 400 each. I could have cut the cost > by at least 60% and possibly 80% if I'd been able to use the cheapest > surface-mount package and 3.3V silicon. > > -- > Tim Forcer tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk > The University of Southampton, UK > > The University is not responsible for my opinions > Another issue that has a dramatic effect on pricing, and one that us technical types ofter ignore is the market effects. The cost of production says what the margin will be and the viability of that product but doesn't set the selling price. When a new product line is introducted, they are fighting for new designs and are more willing to compromise on price to get a foot in the door. A mature product line has already been designed into products, and further price reductions may only serve to reduce profits. A good way to handle this is design the PCB to take competing parts. This allows you to play both ends against the middle. Okay, my 2 bits. Josh Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.Article: 22214
Hi, I'm new to fpga designs. I'd like to experiment with some (at home) (I am not new to dabbling in electronics, I've built several small computers) a) Should I bother looking at pre-constructed systems such as offered by Xess ? Or should I just go ahead and purchase the parts ? b) where can I get parts in single quantities ? I like to use parts with a moderate number of I/O's available say 100. c) How do you use quad flat packs "at home" (This seems to be a popular packaging method) ? Do you solder very carefully ? Is there some sort of "extender boards" to allow the parts to be reused ? Thanx RobArticle: 22215
Hi, Is there any simple method to generate random numbers "integers not bits" that are constrained to a specific range? Thanks in advance Jamil KhatibArticle: 22216
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Why not try to make things mechanical difficult. If you put your FPGA and the configuration EPROM into resin, that is this epoxy stuff, it is already very hard to get down to the contacts to measure. This method is rather convenient for harsh environments thus there are service providers that will do that cheaply. Another step further would be a multi-chip-module. AFAIK xilinx will sell you naked chips for wire bond usage if the amount is not too small. This also saves board space :-). Andreas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas C. Doering Medizinische Universitaet zu Luebeck Institut fuer Technische Informatik Tel.: +49 451 500-3741, Fax: -3687 Email: doering@iti.mu-luebeck.de "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of ... science" (Proverbs 1.7) ----------------------------------------------------------------Article: 22218
I may stand to be corrected, so tell me if I'm wrong as I'll be interested to know the solution, but as far as I am aware from looking through the xilinx support, the parallel cable (parallel cable iii dcl5?) does not support readback adn so you can't debug with this cable. Ben <ejhong@future.co.kr> wrote in message news:%WbO4.259$mw2.4725@news2.bora.net... > Oops...no I didn't set start-up clock to JTAG clcok. > > So I cleared the implementation, changed the option, and implemented again. > But the result is just same. > > Peter Schulz ÀÌ(°¡) <8ebfsv$bug$1@ezri.addix.net> ¸Þ½ÃÁö¿¡¼ > ÀÛ¼ºÇÏ¿´½À´Ï´Ù... > >Did you select "JTAG Clock" for the Start-up Clock? > >You can reach it through "Implementation > > -> Implementation Option > > -> Program Option Templates > > -> Congiguration, Edit Template > > -> Startup" > >Regards > > > >Peter > >Article: 22219
In article <39092892.BEFF2B6E@t2.technion.ac.il>, sduduma <sduduma@t2.technion.ac.il> wrote: > hi ! > > i need to use a fifo design in the renoir and i prefer to use a lpm but > i dont know how to use the maxplus2 lpms in the renoir. > > thanks > > yaniv chen > yaniv@elbit.co.il In Renoir create a new library call LPM_ALTERA (the name isn't important but it coudn't be LPM because Renoir has already a LPM library) Then do a "convert hdl to graphic" and take the file \maxplus2\lpmsim\220model.vhd (I recomend that you keep the VHDL format and doesn't allow Renoir to extract state machine or flow chart) That's it you have the Altera LPM library that is more complete than the one you will find in Renoir. Regards Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.Article: 22220
You can use LFSR (Linear phase shift register) to generate pseudo random series of numbers. Each LFSR generates one "random" bit (zero or one) every clock cycle. If you use n LFSRs The range of your random number is 0 - 2^(n-1). For more details about LFSR implementation refer to xapp052 @ www.xilinx.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Rotem Gazit MystiCom LTD. mailto:rotemg@mysticom.com http://www.mysticom.com ------------------------------------------------------------ In article <390E7693.ED98DE3D@yahoo.com>, khatib@ieee.org wrote: > Hi, > Is there any simple method to generate random numbers "integers not > bits" that are constrained to a specific range? > > Thanks in advance > > Jamil Khatib > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.Article: 22221
The free Max+plusII software does support VHDL and Verilog design entry. You have to choose the "E+Max" license instead of "Baseline" to obtain it. -Nikolay Anton Erasmus <antera@mweb.co.za> wrote in message news:3908b6ae.9769433@news.mweb.co.za... > Hi, > > I Have done some simple EPLD designs in AHDL, but I want to start to > use Verilog and/or VHDL. Unfortuanetly the Free License version of > Alteras Max+Plus II does not support Verilog and VHDL. Is there a free > Compiler which I can use to test Compile simple Verilog and maybe > simulate ? > > Regards > Anton Erasmus >Article: 22222
Hello, Reiner Hartenstein wrote: > Please, tell me, which conference' calendar(s) on the web you know: > > URL: _________________________________________ > > URL: _________________________________________ http://www.kroening.com/conferences/conferences.html -- Daniel KroeningArticle: 22223
Ray Andraka wrote: > The XCV50E-6CS144C is $33.25 in single quantities on Avnet. Seems this is > preety close to what you want, no? > Close, but not quite close enough. I need something I can hand solder for prototype and small production runs. I prefer a 84 pin plcc but if I were desperate I might try a VQFP or even a TQFP type package. Unless you have a suggestion for handling a ball chip package I am afraid I will have to stick with what I have. Thanks for the suggestion anyway. > > Theron Hicks wrote: > > > Rickman wrote: > > > > > Peter wrote: > > > > ... I would love a small Virtex-E series part (fast, with LVPECL I/O > > capability). > > For that part I would probably be willing to pay as much as $30 or more. > > (If it were fast enough.) > > -- > -Ray Andraka, P.E. > President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. > 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 > email randraka@ids.net > http://users.ids.net/~randrakaArticle: 22224
First, If anybody is offended that I put this out here, let me know and it will cease. Second, I realize that there are a number of great VHDL and ASIC people out there. Some might be looking for new positions and some not. I know you do not like me calling you at work, and I can understand that. What would you suggest is the best way to speak with you about new positions I have just received? * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
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