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CPLD's tend to allow wider product term functions per logic level than FPGA's. This usually means that you can do faster wide decoders in a CPLD. Cheers Chris Simon Bilodeau wrote: > Hi i'm quite new in FPGA and CPLD world. > > I have to design a board with address decoding and a few event counters (16 > bit counters) interfaced with an PC104 bus. > > Is it better to use CPLD or FPGA? Why? > > Thanks > > SimonArticle: 22676
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Thats called 'burning in a prom' :) Spehro Pefhany wrote: > > In sci.electronics.design Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote: > > > Wow, you mean if I pump enough current through some of those pins > > that the GAL16V8 will visibly glow? Cool! > > Maybe if it's one of the ones with the quartz window you could make a > digit with the glowing bonding wires? I don't think the shape is right > though. -- ******************************************* * Russell Shaw, B.Eng, M.Eng(Research) * * Electronics Consultant * * email: russell@webaxs.net * * Australia * *******************************************Article: 22678
I don't think you will find many PC/104+ boards at all. This is a fairly new extension to the PC/104 spec and it is a little difficult to implement due to space constraints. The PC/104+ connector takes up additional space on the board and the PCI bus interface chip takes up even more. So you severely limit the amount of circuitry you can use by adding the PCI capability to a PC/104 board. How many boards do you think you will need? If the quantity is sufficient, I am sure that someone will work with you to add such a board to their product line. Jean-Luc Nagel wrote: > "James T. White" wrote: > > > Check out Associated Professional Systems (http://www.associatedpro.com). > > Thank you for your answers. > > Unfortunately they have only PC104 boards and no PC104+... Rick Collins rick.collins@XYarius.com remove the XY to email me. Arius, Inc - A Signal Processing Solutions Company Specializing in DSP and FPGA design Arius 4 King Ave Frederick, MD 21701-3110 301-682-7772 Voice 301-682-7666 FAX Internet URL http://www.arius.comArticle: 22679
What do you mean by FF? Simon Bilodeau <simon.bilodeau@htrc.com> a écrit dans le message : 9qhU4.91$3F3.1719@wagner.videotron.net... > Hi i'm quite new in FPGA and CPLD world. > > I have to design a board with address decoding and a few event counters (16 > bit counters) interfaced with an PC104 bus. > > Is it better to use CPLD or FPGA? Why? > > Thanks > > > Simon > > >Article: 22680
Simon Bilodeau wrote in message ... >What do you mean by FF? Flip-flop. -- a ----------------------------------------- Andy Peters Sr Electrical Engineer National Optical Astronomy Observatories 950 N Cherry Ave Tucson, AZ 85719 apeters (at) noao \dot\ edu "A sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" --Arthur C. ClarkeArticle: 22681
10th International Conference on Field-Programmable Logic and Applications August 28 - 30, 2000 Villach Austria the advance programme is ready for inspection: http://xputers.informatik.uni-kl.de/FPL/fpl2000/Program/FPLStart.html Best regards, Reiner Hartenstein Program ChairArticle: 22682
We are getting a JTAG clock of about 30kHz with a Multilinx running on USB from a Win98 laptop. It's consistent. Xilinx say it shouldn't happen. We tried the serial link and that gives a 5kHz JTAG clock. Any clues? ta AlunArticle: 22683
Before you ask, we're using a Virtex 1000BG560 on a prototyping card made by ARM. Alun Alun <alun101@DELETEtesco.net> wrote in message news:C2CU4.2311$86.38711@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com... > We are getting a JTAG clock of about 30kHz with a Multilinx running on USB > from a Win98 laptop. > It's consistent. Xilinx say it shouldn't happen. > We tried the serial link and that gives a 5kHz JTAG clock. > > Any clues? > > ta > Alun > >Article: 22684
I'm resurrecting an old thread, because Avnet and Insight now have reasonable prices listed for the Spartan-II chips. The two distributors agree to the penny wherever they overlap, so I assume these are Xilinx sanctioned prices in US$ for small quantities as of May 16, 2000: TQ144C PQ208C FG256C FG456C XC2S50-5 $12.85 $14.75 $16.65 XC2S100-5 $17.60 $19.55 $24.65 $31.00 XC2S150-5 $21.60 $27.00 $35.10 These are a _lot_ lower than a month ago, even lower than I predicted. I thought they would be more sensitive to their Virtex customers (Virtex prices haven't dropped, an XCV100 is still generally above $100). Maybe they think most Virtex customers have become addicted to the larger sizes available in that line. The remaining question is availability. Those distributors don't claim stock ("Please call"). Does anyone here know the real scoop? If not, I'll try to get something out of Insight. I have updated http://recycle.lbl.gov/xc2search.html with this info. - Larry Doolittle <LRDoolittle@lbl.gov>Article: 22685
> >www.flint.co.uk "Specialist" SMT disti with "specialist" pricing :) Peter. -- Return address is invalid to help stop junk mail. E-mail replies to zX80@digiYserve.com but remove the X and the Y. Please do NOT copy usenet posts to email - it is NOT necessary.Article: 22686
I'm looking for a small quantity of XC2S50-5FG256C for a prototype build. I need them for June 1st. We had some on order, they were supposed to be in a few weeks ago but now the date is pushed back. If anyone knows where I can get about a dozen right quick, please email me. Larry Doolittle wrote: > I'm resurrecting an old thread, because Avnet and Insight > now have reasonable prices listed for the Spartan-II chips. > > The two distributors agree to the penny wherever they overlap, > so I assume these are Xilinx sanctioned prices in US$ for > small quantities as of May 16, 2000: > > TQ144C PQ208C FG256C FG456C > XC2S50-5 $12.85 $14.75 $16.65 > XC2S100-5 $17.60 $19.55 $24.65 $31.00 > XC2S150-5 $21.60 $27.00 $35.10 > > These are a _lot_ lower than a month ago, even lower than > I predicted. I thought they would be more sensitive to their > Virtex customers (Virtex prices haven't dropped, an XCV100 > is still generally above $100). Maybe they think most Virtex > customers have become addicted to the larger sizes available > in that line. > > The remaining question is availability. Those distributors > don't claim stock ("Please call"). Does anyone here know > the real scoop? If not, I'll try to get something out of > Insight. > > I have updated http://recycle.lbl.gov/xc2search.html with this > info. > > - Larry Doolittle <LRDoolittle@lbl.gov> -- P.S. Please note the new email address and website url -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email ray@andraka.com http://www.andraka.com or http://www.fpga-guru.comArticle: 22687
Ray, I am looking at using the FG packages on a new board and I am not sure how easy they are to use. I have used the BG256 package before and the layout ended up with a number of vias in between the pads that pushed my PCB design rules down to 5 mil trace and 5 mil space. This ended up costing me a lot more to get the PCBs made. The FG256 and FG456 packages use an even smaller pin pitch. In addition, the FG256 has no space in the center to place vias and the FG456 is not much better. How are you laying out your boards to use these parts? Are you going to 5/5 or smaller design rules on the PCB? I am currently using the Lucent Orca parts because they provide a lot of IO in a given package. When Xilinx went to the Virtex parts, they dramatically cut down on the available IO counts. The Spartan II parts are even worse. e.g. the XC4020 in a BG256 package gives 205 IOs. The Virtex part gives 180 IOs. The Spartan II only has 176 in the FG256. Any idea why? To convert my current design over to Xilinx parts, I would have to move two smaller parts from VQ100 packages to the TQ144 package to compensate for the loss of IOs. Then to regain board space, I have to combine my large part (currently a BG256 with 221 IOs) with a third smaller part and use an FG456 package. But I had enough trouble getting the BGA laidout and mounted that I really don't want to go to a finer pitch part and run up the cost of the PCB. The design is modular so I can't combine all of the parts into one package. My preferece is to have one large part with about 220 IOs and three smaller parts with about 75 IOs. But this won't fit on the board with the Spartan IIs unless I go with the fine pitch or chip scale packages. Another problem is the multiple Vcc voltages that are showing up on the board. The board will be powered from 5V and will have a small number of 5V parts. An on board switcher provides 3.3V for the DSP IOs, memory, etc. The DSP needs 1.8V and now the Spartan II/Virtex parts need 2.5V. That's 4 power voltages on a PC/104 board! I really don't know what to do with that. The 1.8V is only 100 mA or so, but I expect the 3 or 4 FPGAs will need a lot more current than that from the 2.5V supply so I would need a second switcher on board. The Virtex E parts are out because I need 5V compatibility on almost 100 pins. Xilinx says you can have a Virtex E pin as input or output on a 5V signal, but they don't show you how to do a bidirectional path. If I stick with the older technology 3.3V FPGAs from Xilinx, I have to pay a lot more for the same number of gates. Any ideas? Ray Andraka wrote: > I'm looking for a small quantity of XC2S50-5FG256C for a prototype > build. I need them for June 1st. We had some on order, they were > supposed to be in a few weeks ago but now the date is pushed back. If > anyone knows where I can get about a dozen right quick, please email me. > > Larry Doolittle wrote: > > > I'm resurrecting an old thread, because Avnet and Insight > > now have reasonable prices listed for the Spartan-II chips. > > > > The two distributors agree to the penny wherever they overlap, > > so I assume these are Xilinx sanctioned prices in US$ for > > small quantities as of May 16, 2000: > > > > TQ144C PQ208C FG256C FG456C > > XC2S50-5 $12.85 $14.75 $16.65 > > XC2S100-5 $17.60 $19.55 $24.65 $31.00 > > XC2S150-5 $21.60 $27.00 $35.10 > > > > These are a _lot_ lower than a month ago, even lower than > > I predicted. I thought they would be more sensitive to their > > Virtex customers (Virtex prices haven't dropped, an XCV100 > > is still generally above $100). Maybe they think most Virtex > > customers have become addicted to the larger sizes available > > in that line. > > > > The remaining question is availability. Those distributors > > don't claim stock ("Please call"). Does anyone here know > > the real scoop? If not, I'll try to get something out of > > Insight. > > > > I have updated http://recycle.lbl.gov/xc2search.html with this > > info. > > > > - Larry Doolittle <LRDoolittle@lbl.gov> > > -- > P.S. Please note the new email address and website url > > -Ray Andraka, P.E. > President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. > 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 > email ray@andraka.com > http://www.andraka.com or http://www.fpga-guru.com -- Rick Collins rick.collins@XYarius.com remove the XY to email me. Arius, Inc. - A Signal Processing Solutions Company Specializing in DSP and FPGA design Arius 4 King Ave Frederick, MD 21701-3110 301-682-7772 Voice 301-682-7666 FAX Internet URL http://www.arius.comArticle: 22688
Rick Collins wrote: > Ray, > > I am looking at using the FG packages on a new board and I am not sure how > easy they are to use. I have used the BG256 package before and the layout > ended up with a number of vias in between the pads that pushed my PCB design > rules down to 5 mil trace and 5 mil space. This ended up costing me a lot > more to get the PCBs made. > > The FG256 and FG456 packages use an even smaller pin pitch. In addition, the > FG256 has no space in the center to place vias and the FG456 is not much > better. The center pins on the FG are all ground. The signal pins are towards the outer perimeter, so it may not be as bad as it first looked. The layout house had no problems with the FG256 packaging. > > > How are you laying out your boards to use these parts? Are you going to 5/5 > or smaller design rules on the PCB? 4DI on Long Island (Haupaug I think) is doing the layout. I believe we are doing 5/5. I've had good experiences with 4DI in the past. > I am currently using the Lucent Orca parts because they provide a lot of IO > in a given package. When Xilinx went to the Virtex parts, they dramatically > cut down on the available IO counts. The Spartan II parts are even worse. > e.g. the XC4020 in a BG256 package gives 205 IOs. The Virtex part gives 180 > IOs. The Spartan II only has 176 in the FG256. Any idea why? Its the packaging mostly, and they are putting more grounds on to cut down on ground bounce problems. FWIW, the VIrtex also comes in an FG256, and from what I can see the pinouts are identical with the exception of the temp sense diode: spartanII replaces it with a power down and status pin. > > > To convert my current design over to Xilinx parts, I would have to move two > smaller parts from VQ100 packages to the TQ144 package to compensate for the > loss of IOs. Then to regain board space, I have to combine my large part > (currently a BG256 with 221 IOs) with a third smaller part and use an FG456 > package. But I had enough trouble getting the BGA laidout and mounted that I > really don't want to go to a finer pitch part and run up the cost of the > PCB. > > The design is modular so I can't combine all of the parts into one package. > My preferece is to have one large part with about 220 IOs and three smaller > parts with about 75 IOs. But this won't fit on the board with the Spartan > IIs unless I go with the fine pitch or chip scale packages. > > Another problem is the multiple Vcc voltages that are showing up on the > board. The board will be powered from 5V and will have a small number of 5V > parts. An on board switcher provides 3.3V for the DSP IOs, memory, etc. The > DSP needs 1.8V and now the Spartan II/Virtex parts need 2.5V. That's 4 power > voltages on a PC/104 board! I really don't know what to do with that. The > 1.8V is only 100 mA or so, but I expect the 3 or 4 FPGAs will need a lot > more current than that from the 2.5V supply so I would need a second > switcher on board. The Virtex E parts are out because I need 5V > compatibility on almost 100 pins. Xilinx says you can have a Virtex E pin as > input or output on a 5V signal, but they don't show you how to do a > bidirectional path. > > If I stick with the older technology 3.3V FPGAs from Xilinx, I have to pay a > lot more for the same number of gates. > > > Any ideas? > > Ray Andraka wrote: > > > I'm looking for a small quantity of XC2S50-5FG256C for a prototype > > build. I need them for June 1st. We had some on order, they were > > supposed to be in a few weeks ago but now the date is pushed back. If > > anyone knows where I can get about a dozen right quick, please email me. > > > > Larry Doolittle wrote: > > > > > I'm resurrecting an old thread, because Avnet and Insight > > > now have reasonable prices listed for the Spartan-II chips. > > > > > > The two distributors agree to the penny wherever they overlap, > > > so I assume these are Xilinx sanctioned prices in US$ for > > > small quantities as of May 16, 2000: > > > > > > TQ144C PQ208C FG256C FG456C > > > XC2S50-5 $12.85 $14.75 $16.65 > > > XC2S100-5 $17.60 $19.55 $24.65 $31.00 > > > XC2S150-5 $21.60 $27.00 $35.10 > > > > > > These are a _lot_ lower than a month ago, even lower than > > > I predicted. I thought they would be more sensitive to their > > > Virtex customers (Virtex prices haven't dropped, an XCV100 > > > is still generally above $100). Maybe they think most Virtex > > > customers have become addicted to the larger sizes available > > > in that line. > > > > > > The remaining question is availability. Those distributors > > > don't claim stock ("Please call"). Does anyone here know > > > the real scoop? If not, I'll try to get something out of > > > Insight. > > > > > > I have updated http://recycle.lbl.gov/xc2search.html with this > > > info. > > > > > > - Larry Doolittle <LRDoolittle@lbl.gov> > > > > -- > > P.S. Please note the new email address and website url > > > > -Ray Andraka, P.E. > > President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. > > 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 > > email ray@andraka.com > > http://www.andraka.com or http://www.fpga-guru.com > > -- > > Rick Collins > > rick.collins@XYarius.com > > remove the XY to email me. > > Arius, Inc. - A Signal Processing Solutions Company > Specializing in DSP and FPGA design > > Arius > 4 King Ave > Frederick, MD 21701-3110 > 301-682-7772 Voice > 301-682-7666 FAX > > Internet URL http://www.arius.com -- P.S. Please note the new email address and website url -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email ray@andraka.com http://www.andraka.com or http://www.fpga-guru.comArticle: 22689
Hi all.. we have Nallatech Virtex XV800 board. Is their any short training courses into how to use it? Thank you in advanced.Article: 22690
I found what looks like a marketing glossy, but is really an app note in disguise showing recommended pad and via layouts for the CS and FG packages. They show annular rings of 5 mil widths. So I guess I can go with an FG or CS package and at least not make my board fab any worse. So instead of one larger part and three smaller parts, I could do a little repartitioning and use two XC2S50-5FG256 and two XC2Sxx-5CS144 chips. But I don't think I have heard when either the smaller two chips (XC2S15 or XC2S30) or the CS144 package for SpartanII will be out. But this combination will give me a lot more gates, a few more pins, more flexibility in using larger parts and cost less than what I am using now! All I have to do is convince myself that a board full of BGA type packaging won't be hard to debug! Ray Andraka wrote: > Rick Collins wrote: > > > Ray, > > > > I am looking at using the FG packages on a new board and I am not sure how > > easy they are to use. I have used the BG256 package before and the layout > > ended up with a number of vias in between the pads that pushed my PCB design > > rules down to 5 mil trace and 5 mil space. This ended up costing me a lot > > more to get the PCBs made. > > > > The FG256 and FG456 packages use an even smaller pin pitch. In addition, the > > FG256 has no space in the center to place vias and the FG456 is not much > > better. > > The center pins on the FG are all ground. The signal pins are towards the outer > perimeter, so it may not be as bad as it first looked. The layout house had no > problems with the FG256 packaging. > > > > > > > How are you laying out your boards to use these parts? Are you going to 5/5 > > or smaller design rules on the PCB? > > 4DI on Long Island (Haupaug I think) is doing the layout. I believe we are > doing 5/5. I've had good experiences with 4DI in the past. > > > I am currently using the Lucent Orca parts because they provide a lot of IO > > in a given package. When Xilinx went to the Virtex parts, they dramatically > > cut down on the available IO counts. The Spartan II parts are even worse. > > e.g. the XC4020 in a BG256 package gives 205 IOs. The Virtex part gives 180 > > IOs. The Spartan II only has 176 in the FG256. Any idea why? > > Its the packaging mostly, and they are putting more grounds on to cut down on > ground bounce problems. FWIW, the VIrtex also comes in an FG256, and from what > I can see the pinouts are identical with the exception of the temp sense diode: > spartanII replaces it with a power down and status pin. Any idea why the Spartan II has even fewer IOs in some of the packages? -- Rick Collins rick.collins@XYarius.com remove the XY to email me. Arius, Inc. - A Signal Processing Solutions Company Specializing in DSP and FPGA design Arius 4 King Ave Frederick, MD 21701-3110 301-682-7772 Voice 301-682-7666 FAX Internet URL http://www.arius.comArticle: 22691
Rick, I've done somewhere around 200 FPGA designs now, and honestly, I can't remember putting test equipment on the FPGA leads. With the SRAM FPGAs, it isn't that hard to write test designs to a) check out the board to make sure you don't have bad connections, and b) put test stimulators, capture or compare logic in the design temporarily. Even then, a good simulation will get you running without even having to go that far. Don't fret it, you'll do fine as long as you apply some thought to your testing. Rick Collins wrote: > I found what looks like a marketing glossy, but is really an app note in disguise > showing recommended pad and via layouts for the CS and FG packages. They show > annular rings of 5 mil widths. So I guess I can go with an FG or CS package and at > least not make my board fab any worse. > > So instead of one larger part and three smaller parts, I could do a little > repartitioning and use two XC2S50-5FG256 and two XC2Sxx-5CS144 chips. But I don't > think I have heard when either the smaller two chips (XC2S15 or XC2S30) or the CS144 > package for SpartanII will be out. But this combination will give me a lot more > gates, a few more pins, more flexibility in using larger parts and cost less than > what I am using now! > > All I have to do is convince myself that a board full of BGA type packaging won't be > hard to debug! > > Ray Andraka wrote: > > > Rick Collins wrote: > > > > > Ray, > > > > > > I am looking at using the FG packages on a new board and I am not sure how > > > easy they are to use. I have used the BG256 package before and the layout > > > ended up with a number of vias in between the pads that pushed my PCB design > > > rules down to 5 mil trace and 5 mil space. This ended up costing me a lot > > > more to get the PCBs made. > > > > > > The FG256 and FG456 packages use an even smaller pin pitch. In addition, the > > > FG256 has no space in the center to place vias and the FG456 is not much > > > better. > > > > The center pins on the FG are all ground. The signal pins are towards the outer > > perimeter, so it may not be as bad as it first looked. The layout house had no > > problems with the FG256 packaging. > > > > > > > > > > > How are you laying out your boards to use these parts? Are you going to 5/5 > > > or smaller design rules on the PCB? > > > > 4DI on Long Island (Haupaug I think) is doing the layout. I believe we are > > doing 5/5. I've had good experiences with 4DI in the past. > > > > > I am currently using the Lucent Orca parts because they provide a lot of IO > > > in a given package. When Xilinx went to the Virtex parts, they dramatically > > > cut down on the available IO counts. The Spartan II parts are even worse. > > > e.g. the XC4020 in a BG256 package gives 205 IOs. The Virtex part gives 180 > > > IOs. The Spartan II only has 176 in the FG256. Any idea why? > > > > Its the packaging mostly, and they are putting more grounds on to cut down on > > ground bounce problems. FWIW, the VIrtex also comes in an FG256, and from what > > I can see the pinouts are identical with the exception of the temp sense diode: > > spartanII replaces it with a power down and status pin. > > Any idea why the Spartan II has even fewer IOs in some of the packages? > > -- > > Rick Collins > > rick.collins@XYarius.com > > remove the XY to email me. > > Arius, Inc. - A Signal Processing Solutions Company > Specializing in DSP and FPGA design > > Arius > 4 King Ave > Frederick, MD 21701-3110 > 301-682-7772 Voice > 301-682-7666 FAX > > Internet URL http://www.arius.com -- P.S. Please note the new email address and website url -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email ray@andraka.com http://www.andraka.com or http://www.fpga-guru.comArticle: 22692
Hello, I would like translate the part of vhdl source to verilog. Please about correct translation the fragment of vhdl. process(READ,RESET) begin if (RESET='1') then BYTE<='0'; elsif (RISING_EDGE(READ)) then if (CS='1' and BACK='0') then BYTE<=not BYTE; end if; end if; end process; I ask for any help on my e-mail below. T.Brychcy@pz.zgora.plArticle: 22693
Steve Casselman wrote in message ... >You might think about this. > >http://www.sidsa.es/fipsoc_r.htm > Great. How do I order a development board, and how much does each FIPSOC cost? -EKCArticle: 22694
Can anyone point me to some resources to find out how much loading a PCI bus can take, and specifically how many loads a Xilinx Virtex represents? In the old TTL days, loading was just a factor of the drivers static IOH/IOL vs. the receivers IIH/IIL, but I'm new to PCI and I suspect the calculations aren't as trivial. -- ======================== William Lenihan lenihan3we@earthlink.net ========================Article: 22695
Rick Collins wrote: > How many boards do you think you will need? If the quantity is sufficient, I am > sure that someone will work with you to add such a board to their product line. Well the quantity is rather small because we would only use these boards for a small number of demos. The asic is anyway the goal. Ok I guess I will forget PC104+ ! :) -- Jean-LucArticle: 22696
Can some one explain What is a macrocell It's use keith@suparule.comArticle: 22697
Malachy Devlin wrote: > > John, > > You could try the Ballynuey card from Nallatech > (http://www.nallatech.com/dime/ballynuey2/index.htm). > This card has 4 DIME slots which can take a range of modules including > one of the modules which has > dual FPGAs (the Ballyblue), this would allow you to scale the card with > the number of FPGAs that > you require. > > Malachy Seams like advertising in two threads ;-) Are you a guy from Nallatech? That would be fine, because I prefer personal contact to suppliers. Patrick -- Patrick Schulz (schulz@rumms.uni-mannheim.de, pschulz@ieee.org) University of Mannheim - Dep. of Computer Architecture 68161 Mannheim - GERMANY / http://mufasa.informatik.uni-mannheim.de Phone: +49-621-181-2720 Fax: +49-621-181-2713Article: 22698
Simon Bilodeau wrote: > > What do you mean by FF? > Try http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/cgi-bin/acronym for decrypting acronyms and http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?query=flip-flop for explanation. A complete description of FPGA and CPLD architecture you'll find at http://www.eecg.toronto.edu/~jayar/pubs/brown/survey.html Patrick -- Patrick Schulz (schulz@rumms.uni-mannheim.de, pschulz@ieee.org) University of Mannheim - Dep. of Computer Architecture 68161 Mannheim - GERMANY / http://mufasa.informatik.uni-mannheim.de Phone: +49-621-181-2720 Fax: +49-621-181-2713Article: 22699
Hi William, there is a simple rule: Use a chip, which is PCI-compliant. PCI accepts 10 loads (each chip is 1 load and each pair of connectors is 1 load too) for more information: use the PCI-Spec. Lutz William LenihanIii schrieb in Nachricht <392396D6.E8985426@earthlink.net>... >Can anyone point me to some resources to find out how much loading a PCI >bus can take, and specifically how many loads a Xilinx Virtex >represents? In the old TTL days, loading was just a factor of the >drivers static IOH/IOL vs. the receivers IIH/IIL, but I'm new to PCI and >I suspect the calculations aren't as trivial. > >-- >======================== >William Lenihan >lenihan3we@earthlink.net >======================== > >
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