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Article: 95475
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "TheDoc" <thedoc@ev1.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:11:50 GMT
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"Simon Peacock" <simon$actrix.co.nz> wrote in message
news:43d462d3@news2.actrix.gen.nz...
>
> "Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:43D3B37D.97DD588@hotmail.com...
> >
> >
> > SS wrote:
> >
> > > I'm from India and I think that this thread is rather interesting...
> > >
> > > Chris.Gammell@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > I think the interesting thing in all of this is that the predominate
> > > > language still used is English. I think that speaks volumes to the
> > > > future of the industries. Until we have to start learning Mandarin
or
> > > > Hindi, we're in good shape.
> > >
> > > I don't think you ever will need to - Indian engineers predominantly
> > > 'choose' to speak in English. However, the same cant be said for
> > > whether they 'think' in English. I do, though :-)
> >
> > Possibly some posters are unaware that English is an official Indian
> > language. Indeed, along with Hindi those 2 are the only Indian languages
> > that aren't regional.
> >
> > Graham
> >
> One of the advantages, of course, is that all the computer languages are
> English.. or at least American English.

Ah.. so one of two languages then.. ? :)




> Also if you want to get the big bucks.. you still have to move to the USA.
> There also seems to be a trend of IT personal switching countries, and
> English, for better or worse, is a fairly generic language.
>
> Simon
>
>



Article: 95476
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?obtaining_ABEL_code_from_schematics_sou?=
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Peral_P=E9rez?=
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:12:38 +0100
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i'm testing webpack8.1, with a CPLD. i would like to create a design 
from an schematic and obtain as a result the equivalent ABEL code.

i select source schematic and syntesis   ABEL-XLT-VHDL. I thought i will 
obtain the .abl, but i obtain vhdl code (a .vhf file) but i don't find 
ABEL code. is it anywhere?

thanks

Article: 95477
Subject: PE licunsure: was Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Ray Andraka <ray@andraka.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:30:15 -0500
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Joerg wrote:
> Hello Paul,
> 
>>
>> The PE 's giving you refeence/verification do NOT have to be EEs. I 
>> just was approved to take the exam this April and 2 of my references 
>> were licensed mechanical PEs, not EE.  Don't let this deter you....you 
>> can find PEs of any field and use for reference.
>>
> 
> Interesting. Then I would already know two (civil engineers). Was that 
> in California?
> 
> I just re-checked the application form here in CA. It looks like it's up 
> to four refs now and says "These individuals must be licensed as 
> professional engineers in the discipline for which you are applying". 
> That would rule out my CE friends. Also, it says you must have been 
> "engaged" with them, meaning a work relationship. Well, I never designed 
> any bridges for them ;-)
> 
> That would make it all toast I guess. I never worked with any PEs, just 
> with one EIT.
> 
> Regards, Joerg
> 
> http://www.analogconsultants.com

When I applied for mine, they wanted 5 references, 3 of which needed to 
be familiar with my work, and 3 of which had to be registered engineers. 
   As it happened, all 3 were familiar with my work through past 
engagements, only one was licensed as an EE, the other two were MEs, 
both working for medical equpment companies I had done work for.  In 
addition, none of the references could be past employees or supervisors 
(the supervisors were interviewed too).  I did note quite a variation 
between states on the requirements for references.  Massachusetts IIRC, 
at the time I got mine in RI, for example, wanted 5 PE signatures, 3 of 
which had to licensed in Massachusetts.

You could always call the licensing board and discuss your predicament 
with them.  They are well aware that there are few PEs in manufacturing, 
and again, I found them to be very helpful navigating the application 
process, including helping you find your references.  I've also been 
hired to review a candidates background to see if there could be 
equivalent experience drawn from their coursework and experience (He had 
a degree from a non-accredited school, and didn't have 20 years 
experience).  What I am saying is, you may be able to work with the 
board to find an alternative set of requirements drawn from your 
experience that will satisfy their needs.  It doesn't hurt to ask and 
push a little.

BTW, yes, you generally do need 4 years between the FE exam and your PE. 
  Sounds like a good reason to go and get the FE out of the way.  I was 
fortunate, one of my Undergrad professors encouraged us to go take the 
EIT even if we thought we'd never use it.  I've never regretted taking 
his advice (this is good advice to all you lurkers here who are 
finishing up school too).

Article: 95478
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Rich Grise, but drunk" <yahright@example.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:30:59 GMT
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:04:21 +0100, SioL wrote:

> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message
>> And you seen happy to neglect the malnutrition problem that you do have
>> in raising kids in the U.S. In Europe, former Yugoslavia, The Czech
>> Republic, Hungary and Romania do worse, but everybody else does
>> appreciably better.
> 
> Bill, as much as I admire you, please come here to Slovenia and show me
> how we're doing worse than say Greece, Portugal, Spain or any other
> EU country in terms of malnutrition.

Where the hell is Slovenia?

Sorry, I know I can look it up, and I'm about to do so, but I just
couldn't resist - a very popular bumper sticker in Southern California
is "Where the hell is <insert city name here>", like, Montebello, 
Ramona, Cardiff-by-the-sea, Irvine, that sort of thing. ;-)

<Rich googles a little>
Holy Yikes!
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Slovenia&btnG=Search&ll=42.309815,15.600586&spn=9.487596,25.136719&t=h

How's the beaches there? Do they have naked ladies running around? <leer,
snort> ;-P

Thanks!
Rich



Article: 95479
Subject: Re: Creating Multiple Configuration PROM File
From: "Rob" <robnstef@frontiernet.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:34:25 GMT
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Antti:

I went through the whole procedure, generated the mult-revision .mcs file, 
and it doesn't configure the FPGA (V2PRO).  I can program the flash 
(non-revision mode) with either of the 2 config files individulally and 
configuration works fine.

I have to compress the .bit files of the 2 designs, when generating the 
multi-revision .mcx file, because two uncompressed .bit files are too big 
for the XCF16PVO48C PROM that I'm using.

Any thoughts?

Rob

"Antti Lukats" <antti@openchip.org> wrote in message 
news:dqvalo$h84$1@online.de...
>
> "Rob" <robnstef@frontiernet.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
> news:4gAAf.357$qg.257@news01.roc.ny...
>> I'm familiar with the hardware setup.  What I'm looking for is a document 
>> that tells one how to creat the prom file with the tool.
>>
>
> actually I guessed that, well you just need to start impact and 'enable 
> revisionong'
> then you can assign different bitstreams to different revisions.
>
> antti
> 



Article: 95480
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:35:43 GMT
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Hello Chris,

>>If you are 
>>competant, you should have little trouble navigating the application 
>>process.
> 
> I agree.
> 

Ain't that easy. Explained with link further below. You need to look at 
the req's of each state. Each state has their own turf.

> 
> Much the same as the UK.... in fact there is a general harmonisation of
> the requirements world wide between the various regulatory bodies.
> 

I've lived in Europe and most countries, such as Germany, do not have 
any license. So it couldn't possibly be harmonized. They have a 
"Staatspruefung" but that is more for folks in government and for the 
engineers who perform the mandatory road worthiness checks on cars.


>>The PEs who provide your references do not have to be in the same 
>>discipline, nor do they need to have any expertise in your area of work. 
>>They are basically vouching for you by stating that your work is 
>>worthy of a professional and that you are moral and ethical in your 
>>work.  It doesn't mean they have to be a co-worker or know the intimate 
>>details of your work.  
> 
> However in the UK they tend to like them as close to your work as
> possible and it is the same with the interview. 
> 
> though to be honest the people who say there is no one who can asses me
> are either The leading expert in the field in which case their work will
> be well known or else they are making excuses. 
> 

No. And the refs do have to be from your discipline. Look at page three 
number 12 in this doc (the application for for California):
http://www.dca.ca.gov/pels/a_peappform.pdf

Clearly says: "For each engagement claimed as qualifying experience, 
list the name of a person who will serve as a reference. These 
individuals should be licensed as Professional Engineers in the 
discipline for which you are applying. YOU MUST LIST AT LEAST FOUR 
PERSONS WILLING TO SERVE AS REFERENCES FOR YOU."

So far for making excuses ;-)


> In the case of Medical electronics there are plenty of people who could
> do it. I know quite a few. Unless your particular fields so specialised
> in which case I am sure you can explain your patents  to the
> interviewing panel
> 

The interviewing panel won't see you unless all the requirements on the 
application are fulfilled. See above. AFAIK they even require the refs 
to be registered in California where there is exactly one company doing 
the stuff I am doing. No PEs there and I know those folks personally.

> 
>>Ahh, but you do offer your services to the public. Offering services to 
>>a company that you are not on the direct payroll for is offering 
>>services to the public. 
> 
> Yes. Though there is probably a legal hair to split on Business to
> business trade as opposed to business to individual people
> 

No hair splitting. In CA public is not industry. Industry is not the 
public. What would be against the rules is if someone would advertise 
"Engineer will design and realize your new home solar system..." or 
something like that. 'Home' clearly hints he wants to sell services to 
the public and that requires a PE. Or in this case at least a 
contractors license.

> 
> So perhaps it is time to apply before they raise the bar.
> 

It seems to be going the other direction. A few years ago they changed 
the board from being a separate entity and put it under Consumer 
Affairs. The applicant numbers in EE are very low, just a few hundred a 
year and most of these fail the test. So they jacked up the fees which 
probably leads to a further applicant reduction some day.


> Ironically as a Chartered Electrical Engineer I am no longer able to do
> household wiring. You have to be a licensed electrician (it's been the
> same for domestic Gas fitters for years) . 
> 

That is really weird.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Article: 95481
Subject: Re: Xilinx padding LC numbers, how do you really feel about it?
From: Ray Andraka <ray@andraka.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:36:30 -0500
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Jim Granville wrote:

> 
> Radical Idea: Give Marketing the front page(s) of the data sheets, and
> let engineering control the rest, and label the pages accordingly.
> Then _everyone_ knows what they are reading...
> 

Better yet, leave the brochure to marketing and the data sheet to 
engineering.  The data sheet shouldn't be the sales tool any more than 
the slick marketing brochure is an engineering document.

It is ridiculous having to mine the data sheets for such basic important 
information as the LUT count.  Nobody using these devices gives a flying 
fig about the number of "marketing gates" or "equivalent LUTs".  Those 
figures simply have no meaning to an engineer, and have no place on a 
data sheet.

Article: 95482
Subject: Re: Quadrature Encoder ::
From: langwadt@ieee.org
Date: 23 Jan 2006 13:37:24 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>

narashimanc@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi all, Hope everything is fine on your side.
>
> Key Words: ML300 board, VHDL, XST, XPS, Xilinx
>
> I have written a  VHDL program(look post script)to count pulses from
> quadrature encoder. Basically i read both the clocks(here QEP0 and
> QEP1) and count on two different conditions based on if the motor is
> going forward or backward. In the previous case  count is increased and
> the latter case the count is decreased. I store the count in a S/W
> accessible slave register generated when i use "Create Peripheral
> wizard" (EDK) (slv_reg0)
>
snip...

I assume you have a fast clock available so instead of treating QEP0
and QEP1
as clocks treat them as data; Sample the two pins with a couple of
flipflops and look
at the state. There only four states and for each state theres only two
legal next
states, forward/backward.You could even add an error flag that is set
if there's an illegal transition.

That way your counter and everything else is synchronous with you
system

-Lasse


Article: 95483
Subject: Re: Starting with LVDS
From: "Rob" <robnstef@frontiernet.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:38:51 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Are you trying to implement the transmitter within the FPGA?

"Frank Schreiber" <frankschr@googlemail.com> wrote in message 
news:dr0fec$kvu$1@anderson.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de...
> Dear all
> I'm starting with LVDS.
> My task is sending 8-bits signal to LVDS Transmitter port on my board.
> I declared a 8 bits vector, assigned pins, and changed values in 8-bits
> signal, but nothing happended in my oscilloscope. Assume that pins-out are
> right assigned, all wires and DAC are working perfectly.
> Can anyone advise me, how to make it works.
> Many thanks
> Frank
>
> 



Article: 95484
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:44:10 -0800
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"Rich Grise, but drunk" <yahright@example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.23.20.59.36.922086@example.net...
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 02:58:27 +0000, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
> >    No problem.  I am starting to lose my close-up eyesight to diabetes,
> > and have to depend on the spell checker. I have severe carpal tunnel
> > (The VA and Shands hospital doctors tell me the surgery won't help me)
> > so I have to type with just a couple fingers.  That causes me a lot of
> > spelling errors.  I get so busy trying to make sure the spelling is
> > correct that I sometimes forget to check the syntax.
>
>
> Michael, I think you need some serious therapy to root out these self-
> hatred issues.
>
> It's quite difficult to give oneself "carpal tunnel syndrome" - you really
> have to work at it for a long time, while ignoring the pain from your
> wrist. There's an exceedingly simple cure for this - if it hurts, stop.
>
> I've been sitting at a keyboard pretty much all of my waking life for
> about 30 years, and the only time I ever got a _hint_ of "carpal tunnel"
> was when I was holding the mouse in a very awkward position - when my
> wrist said, "This Hurts!" I changed the position of my arm. Voila! No
> "carpal tunnel syndrome"!

I got sore wrists a few years back when I broke my leg and used crutches for
a while.  I found that placing the monitor and keyboard at the corner of two
tables so that both arms were resting on the table edges helped me.  At
hone, I use an LCD monitr widh sits far enough back that I can rest my arms
on the table.




Article: 95485
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_obtaining_ABEL_code_from_schemati?=
From: Jim Granville <no.spam@designtools.co.nz>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:52:35 +1300
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Fernando Peral Pérez wrote:

> i'm testing webpack8.1, with a CPLD. i would like to create a design 
> from an schematic and obtain as a result the equivalent ABEL code.
> 
> i select source schematic and syntesis   ABEL-XLT-VHDL. I thought i will 
> obtain the .abl, but i obtain vhdl code (a .vhf file) but i don't find 
> ABEL code. is it anywhere?

  You can get boolean eqn format ( not-quite-abel ) from the CPLD FIT 
reports.
  We have used that to migrate between families/vendors in the past,
and for benchmarking.
  The better fitters format their report eqns so they can paste back into
the tools....
-jg


Article: 95486
Subject: Re: Xilinx padding LC numbers, how do you really feel about it?
From: Austin Lesea <austin@xilinx.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:55:39 -0800
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Ray,

OK, OK.  We have heard you.

As I said, Peter and I will do our best to influence "truth in counting."

Austin

Article: 95487
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Rich Grise, but drunk" <yahright@example.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:56:40 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:30:45 -0800, bill.sloman wrote:

> Good for Slovenia! The Netherlands is acquiring a culture of eating
> well - we now have three restaurants with three Michelin stars - but
> there is a long way to go. It a Dutch person recommends a restaurant to
> you, you can be fairly sure that the decor, ambience and service will
> all be okay, but the food can be total rubbish.

Well, what do you expect from a restaurant that serves tires? ;-D

Cheers!
Rich


Article: 95488
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:58:22 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>

"Simon Peacock" <simon$actrix.co.nz> wrote in message
news:43d462d3@news2.actrix.gen.nz...
>
> "Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:43D3B37D.97DD588@hotmail.com...
> >
> >
> > SS wrote:
> >
> > > I'm from India and I think that this thread is rather interesting...
> > >
> > > Chris.Gammell@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > I think the interesting thing in all of this is that the predominate
> > > > language still used is English. I think that speaks volumes to the
> > > > future of the industries. Until we have to start learning Mandarin
or
> > > > Hindi, we're in good shape.
> > >
> > > I don't think you ever will need to - Indian engineers predominantly
> > > 'choose' to speak in English. However, the same cant be said for
> > > whether they 'think' in English. I do, though :-)
> >
> > Possibly some posters are unaware that English is an official Indian
> > language. Indeed, along with Hindi those 2 are the only Indian languages
> > that aren't regional.
> >
> > Graham
> >
> One of the advantages, of course, is that all the computer languages are
> English.. or at least American English.
> Also if you want to get the big bucks.. you still have to move to the USA.
> There also seems to be a trend of IT personal switching countries, and
> English, for better or worse, is a fairly generic language.

When I wsa studying for my CS degree, one of the courses (Computer
Languages) required writing one program in Algol.  You could request the
diagnostic messages in French (all I remember was "Bonne compilation").




Article: 95489
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Rich Grise, but drunk" <yahright@example.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:00:04 GMT
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:46:44 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:

> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> schreef in bericht
> news:1137987045.839508.7650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Good for Slovenia! The Netherlands is acquiring a culture of eating
>> well - we now have three restaurants with three Michelin stars - but
>> there is a long way to go. It a Dutch person recommends a restaurant to
>> you, you can be fairly sure that the decor, ambience and service will
>> all be okay, but the food can be total rubbish.
> 
> It is indeed a long way to go, if the goal is three Michelin star food
> for everyone, everyday.

I don't know what you yer-a-peein' guys eat, but in America Michelins are
tires. [tyres]. They're made of rubber, you put them on your car wheels,
and they taste terrible and are almost impossible to chew.

Cheers!
Rich


Article: 95490
Subject: Re: PE licunsure: was Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:00:59 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hello Ray,


> When I applied for mine, they wanted 5 references, 3 of which needed to 
> be familiar with my work, and 3 of which had to be registered engineers. 
>   As it happened, all 3 were familiar with my work through past 
> engagements, only one was licensed as an EE, the other two were MEs, 
> both working for medical equpment companies I had done work for.  In 
> addition, none of the references could be past employees or supervisors 
> (the supervisors were interviewed too).  ...


Oops, that may put another crimp in there since I was their boss all the 
time. The CEO was my boss and has a degree but no license either. The 
other assigment where I wasn't boss was outside the country.


> You could always call the licensing board and discuss your predicament 
> with them.  They are well aware that there are few PEs in manufacturing, 
> and again, I found them to be very helpful navigating the application 
> process, including helping you find your references. ...


Yes, maybe talking to them is the best course of action. They might be 
more willing now than before (I did call them about PE several years 
ago) because they are hurting budgetwise AFAIK and may be hungry for the 
$275 fee. They had already jacked up the fees substantially to make up. 
Not enough applicants anymore it seems.


> BTW, yes, you generally do need 4 years between the FE exam and your PE. 


Beats me why they do that. Doesn't make much sense.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Article: 95491
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Rich Grise, but drunk" <yahright@example.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:02:55 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:29:03 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:
> "Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> schreef in bericht
>> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:46:44 +0100, the renowned "Frank Bemelman"
>> ><bill.sloman@ieee.org> schreef in bericht
>> >>
>> >> Good for Slovenia! The Netherlands is acquiring a culture of eating
>> >> well - we now have three restaurants with three Michelin stars - but
>> >> there is a long way to go. It a Dutch person recommends a restaurant to
>> >> you, you can be fairly sure that the decor, ambience and service will
>> >> all be okay, but the food can be total rubbish.
>> >
>> >It is indeed a long way to go, if the goal is three Michelin star food
>> >for everyone, everyday.
>> >;)
>> Doesn't sound like a bad goal. Instead of food insecurity you'd have
>> to worry about the prevalence of gout.
> 
> I'm getting more worried about my wallet, and what's in it. Bill is a
> snob of course, as most Michelin star restaurants customers are. Last...

Bill? You mean Bill S? A SNOB? HAhahahahaha! 

Isn't the concept of a socialist snob kind of an oxymoron? (I know,
that's pimple cream for retarded people, but you get my point...)

Cheers!
Rich


Article: 95492
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Rich Grise, but drunk" <yahright@example.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:05:35 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:11:50 -0800, bill.sloman wrote:

> 
> Frank Bemelman wrote:
>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> schreef in bericht
>> news:1137987045.839508.7650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Good for Slovenia! The Netherlands is acquiring a culture of eating
>> > well - we now have three restaurants with three Michelin stars - but
>> > there is a long way to go. It a Dutch person recommends a restaurant to
>> > you, you can be fairly sure that the decor, ambience and service will
>> > all be okay, but the food can be total rubbish.
>>
>> It is indeed a long way to go, if the goal is three Michelin star food
>> for everyone, everyday.
>>
>> Sheesh!
>>
>> ;)
> 
> I'd be happy if you autochtones could reliably tell the difference
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=define%3Aautochtone&btnG=Search

???
Rich


Article: 95493
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Charlie Edmondson <edmondson@ieee.org>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:06:56 -0800
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Joerg wrote:

> fpga_toys@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> 
>> ... But increasingly I've seen engineers that have been
>> consulting
>> pickup their families and expand their business outside the tech hubs.
>> ...
> 
> 
> 
> That is clearly a trend. I have seen folks move to places like Arkansas. 
> Nowadays the means communication are so excellent that it doesn't really 
> matter where you design stuff. There are clients that I haven't seen in 
> years but it never mattered.
> 
> The upside is that the move to a rural place can provide tranquility, 
> less stress and a re-focus on what the real values in life are. Plus 
> there is some great Americana to be found that I sorely miss in the 
> cities. Saloons, country music, a "real" main street that doesn't fall 
> dormant at night, people have time for each other, people help each 
> other, after a while you know almost anyone and they know you, and so 
> on. And nobody cares whether you drive a snazzy ritzy sports car or not. 
> In fact, all you might need is a pickup truck (to haul some farwood from 
> them thar forest...).
> 
> Regards, Joerg
> 
> http://www.analogconsultants.com
I am in the process myself!  I sold my house in Irvine last summer, paid 
off my loans and purchased a piece of land in Borrego Springs. That is 
just about as far from the middle of no-where you can get, and still be 
somewhere... 8-)

I was going to build here, but the time and price for custom 
construction was just too high, so I am buying a new home in Desert Hot 
Springs (Just outside of Palm Springs.)  After I sell the land here in 
Borrego, I will just about be free and clear, still working from home, 
but able to start really salting away the savings for an eventual 
retirement.

Charlie

Article: 95494
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Rich Grise, but drunk" <yahright@example.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:08:22 GMT
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:43:24 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:04:21 +0100, "SioL" <Sio_spam_L@same.net>
>><bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message
>>> And you seen happy to neglect the malnutrition problem that you do have
>>> in raising kids in the U.S. In Europe, former Yugoslavia, The Czech
>>> Republic, Hungary and Romania do worse, but everybody else does
>>> appreciably better.
>>
>>Bill, as much as I admire you, please come here to Slovenia and show me
>>how we're doing worse than say Greece, Portugal, Spain or any other
>>EU country in terms of malnutrition.
> 
> Bill, himself, is so malnourished that he's demented ;-)
> 

Demented is as demented does, Jim. 

Thanks,
Rich



Article: 95495
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Richard the Dreaded Libertarian <eatmyshorts@doubleclick.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:14:45 GMT
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:27:55 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:17:45 -0500, Spehro Pefhany

>>The WSJ is a neo-con controlled publication-- like the Telegraph in
>>the UK, only much worse. 
>>
> 
> Did we read the same article?  Or is it that leftists can't stand
> reading about themselves ?:-)
> 

Well, clearly the neocons have serious problems with the truth about 
THEMselves. Or maybe it's a generic comprehension deficit?

Stupid is as stupid does.

Unfortunately, I fear that America is at the brink of the same level of
mass stupidity that got Hitler elected as Chancellor of Germany lo
those many years ago.

Hell, it got Dubya elected. (possibly the worst thing that's ever happened 
in the history of the country)

Twice.

Good Luck!
Rich
-- 
"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo Possum


Article: 95496
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Richard the Dreaded Libertarian <eatmyshorts@doubleclick.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:16:17 GMT
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:24:40 +0000, Bryan Hackney wrote:

> The doctor will tell you not to diagnose yourself. If you look like
> a duck, walk like a duck, and quack, you are probably a duck.


Yabbut, if you dress like a nazi, goose-step like a nazi, and talk like
a nazi, does that make you a nazi?

Thanks,
Rich
-- 
"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo Possum


Article: 95497
Subject: Re: Xilinx padding LC numbers, how do you really feel about it?
From: Jim Granville <no.spam@designtools.co.nz>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:18:38 +1300
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Austin Lesea wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> Marketing has always had responsibility for putting the data sheet 
> together.  That is nothing new.
> 
> Peter and I have decided to work our how to do this better.  We'll see 
> how successful we are...
> 
> Austin

Good luck :)

These details DO matter, as they affect the credibility of the whole
document. If they are allowed to creep one dimension because it
"sounds better", what's next - marketing nanoseconds ?

-jg


Article: 95498
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelmanq@xs4all.invalid.nl>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:24:31 +0100
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"Rich Grise, but drunk" <yahright@example.net> schreef in bericht
news:pan.2006.01.23.22.00.35.771015@example.net...
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:46:44 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:
>
> > <bill.sloman@ieee.org> schreef in bericht
> > news:1137987045.839508.7650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> Good for Slovenia! The Netherlands is acquiring a culture of eating
> >> well - we now have three restaurants with three Michelin stars - but
> >> there is a long way to go. It a Dutch person recommends a restaurant to
> >> you, you can be fairly sure that the decor, ambience and service will
> >> all be okay, but the food can be total rubbish.
> >
> > It is indeed a long way to go, if the goal is three Michelin star food
> > for everyone, everyday.
>
> I don't know what you yer-a-peein' guys eat, but in America Michelins are
> tires. [tyres]. They're made of rubber, you put them on your car wheels,
> and they taste terrible and are almost impossible to chew.

Here too, Michelin is a French tiremaker since ages. They also
publish a restaurant guide.

Seems that Michelin has a guide for the US now:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/food/246688_michelin02.html

"Receiving two stars were Daniel Boulud's Restaurant Daniel,
Masayoshi Takayama's Masa -- the nation's most expensive
restaurant, at $350 prix fixe -- and David Bouley's Bouley
and Danube restaurants.".



-- 
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'q' and '.invalid' when replying by email)







Article: 95499
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Richard the Dreaded Libertarian <eatmyshorts@doubleclick.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:25:06 GMT
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:13:27 +0000, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> 
>    Only your glaring ignorance, which is only overshadowed by your
> fellow Australian Phil Allison.  Tell us all, Bill. Why is it the
> biggest assholes on usenet are from Australia?

So, now you're citing Phil Allison as a fount of credibility?

Actually, calling the likes of him OR you "asshole" is a serious insult
to the human anus.

Thanks,
Rich
-- 
"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo Possum




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