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Article: 95225
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: mojaveg@mojaveg.iwvisp.com (Everett M. Greene)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:24:26 PST
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Keith Williams <krw@att.bizzzz> writes:
> rphenry@home.com says...
> > "Mike" <mike@nospam.com> wrote
> > > "SioL" <Sio_spam_L@same.net> wrote
> > > > "Lanarcam" <lanarcam1@yahoo.fr> wrote
> > > >> Bryan Hackney wrote:
> > > >>> And, um, what has Africa ever contributed to the world?
> > > >>
> > > >> No idea?
> > > >
> > > > Homo Sapiens?
> > > >
> > > > Supposedly the first  man or woman came from there.
> > >
> > > My first thought too.
> > >
> > > Thank God they didn't patent. Can you imagine how much the royalty
> > payments
> > > would be?
> > >
> > > (And if we didn't pay, they'd terminate our license to produce!)
> > 
> > THe method is obvious to anyone skilled in the field.
> > 
> <putting on his Perry Mason hat>  Is that why there are a million 
> parenting books?  ...and ten million sex books?  ;-)

Parenting is always done by amateurs.  About the time
parents gets some experience, they're no longer in the
business.

Grandparenting is easy -- spoil 'em rotten and send
them home!

Article: 95226
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: mojaveg@mojaveg.iwvisp.com (Everett M. Greene)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:24:29 PST
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Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> writes:
> mojaveg@mojaveg.iwvisp.com (Everett M. Greene) wrote:
> >Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> writes:

> >> Sheeeesh!  If you count the breaks it's even less than 30 hours.
> >> 
> >> When I was doing the big motor control project at Bosch in Bühlertal,
> >> Germany, I'd barely get in the door and they'd break for "breakfast".
> >
> >I would think you should have gone with the flow.  If you
> >were staying at a hotel, you couldn't get a decent breakfast,
> 
> You know not of what you speak.  The breakfast buffet at the hotel was
> fabulous!  In fact all the inns in Bühlertal had great breakfasts.

When I was there, the Nazi-era laws forbade anyone starting
work early enough to get the makings for a good breakfast
prepared.  You could have a roll baked the previous day and
a little cheese or butter to put on it.

> >so the zweite fruhstuck was needed to get you to lunchtime.
> >
> >> I finally shamed them into working American hours by walking into the
> >> lab and picking up a soldering iron and doing the tech work myself ;-)

Article: 95227
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: mojaveg@mojaveg.iwvisp.com (Everett M. Greene)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:24:32 PST
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:
> Joerg wrote:
> > Hello Richard,
> > 
> > > ... father was a practicing EE even though is degree was ME. [Back in 20's
> > > an EE meant 60 cps power but an ME got more background in what we now
> > > consider to be EE. If he were still alive, he would enjoy this discussion.]
> > 
> > MEs did enjoy a more practical background. I have a 1929 ME handbook
> > from my late father in law. It contains chapters that describe how to
> > set up cigarette manufacturing lines and breweries ;-)
> > 
> > Another book that I saw at a friend's house described radio frequencies
> > as a "wondrous ether whose practical usage has yet to be determined".
> > That was from the pre-cell phone days.
> 
>    How about the book titles and printing dates?

I borrowed a book from the library titled something akin to
"Modern Steam Locomotive Construction" first published in
1894.  It was interesting to note that the designers of the
locomotives of that era were called master mechanics and
there was almost nothing about engineering as we think of
it today in the book.  Apparently strength of materials
was an unknown subject in those days.

Article: 95228
Subject: Re: Modelsim problem
From: Duane Clark <dclark@junkmail.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:31:39 GMT
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Jaime Andrés Aranguren Cardona wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am using ModelSim SE Plus 5.7d. VHDL code compiles and loads fine.
> However, if I use the "add wave *" command, ModelSim smply quits,
> regardless of what I put in the "*" field.
> Invoking it from FpgaAdvantage 6.1 shows me the following:
> 
> ...
> # Corrupt Call Stack
> 
> ** Fatal: (SIGSEGV) Bad pointer access. Closing vsim.
> ** Fatal: vsim is exiting with code 211.
> (Exit codes are defined in the ModelSim messages appendix
> of the ModelSim User's Manual.)
> 
> How can I solve this?

In my experience, this is almost always caused by *mumble* problems in 
compiling libraries. Okay, that might be somewhat vague, but I have not 
figured out exactly what circumstances cause it. One circumstance that 
causes it is if I move a library, but don't recompile a file (which may 
be in another library) that uses it.

Often, I can find the problem simply by reading the transcript file that 
Modelsim generates. Somewhere in there, I will usually find a mention of 
a library that it didn't load, or had a problem with. Another method is 
to simply recompile all the libraries and files you are using, in the 
correct order.

As a final desperation measure, instead of loading the whole project, 
load just pieces of it. Eventually you can narrow it down to the piece 
that is crashing, and work your way backwards to find exactly the file. 
If it is in a library, just go to the library directory and load pieces 
of that into Modelsim.

Article: 95229
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:39:18 GMT
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Steve at fivetrees wrote:
> "Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:43D26733.4C03D13E@hotmail.com...
> 
>>Can someone here please advise me why there's this current hysteria about 
>>bird
>>flu ? I expect bird flu has existed since the dawn of time. What's so 
>>dangerous
>>about it in 2005/6 ?
>>
>>I assume it's just media hype. They found something 'new' to worry us 
>>about.
> 
> 
> You might want to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flu_Epidemic
> 
> "The Spanish Flu Pandemic, also known as La Grippe, or La Pesadilla, was an 
> unusually severe and deadly strain of avian influenza, a viral infectious 
> disease, that killed some 50 million to 100 million people worldwide over 
> about a year in 1918 and 1919. It is thought to have been one of the most 
> deadly pandemics so far in human history. It was caused by the H1N1 type of 
> influenza virus, which is similar to bird flu of today, mainly H5N1 and 
> H5N2."
> 
> Virii don't just "exist since the dawn of time". They mutate.
> 
> Steve
> http://www.fivetrees.com 
> 
> 

Not true, they do exist from the dawn of time and usually the mutations 
are weaker and less viable than the so-called "wild strain." You have to 
recognize that it's not still with us and in fact died out quite 
abruptly, so why is that. The "spanish flu" is a misnomer, the first 
major outbreak was in England among troops in 1916 but the news of this 
was suppressed for security reasons. Spain had no such censure on 
reporting its problems. Also there were factors contributing to the 
severity not present today such as shortages of food, proper shelter and 
  medical care, and the stress of the wartime conditions. Another less 
well-known contributing factor was the large demographic shifts with 
urban and rural populations being forced to mix within a short time 
span, the rural populations being hit hard by urban disease to which 
they had no prior exposure, weakening their health status. Modern 
methods of detection, control, and quarantine will do more wonders in 
suppressing the spread of a human contagion than any viracide.


Article: 95230
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Chris Hills <chris@phaedsys.org>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:41:51 +0000
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In article <hc33t1d5gj5ng3upvu1h5vr3a750hrm2sb@4ax.com>, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> writes
>On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:17:45 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
><speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:38:20 +0000, the renowned Pooh Bear
>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Steve Moulding wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:43D17084.F72CB119@hotmail.com...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > John Larkin wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:40:48 +0100, Blade <hun@hun.kom> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >Strange. I always thought that Europe is declining because we are trying
>>>> >> >to follow the foolish american social model.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Europe is declining because Europeans aren't breeding.
>>>> >
>>>> > I fail to see what the population has to do with this supposed decline.
>>>> >
>>>> > Could you elaborate ?
>>>> >
>>>> > Graham
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007760
>>>
>>>Hmmm... 'opinionionjournal' ! You do realise that the USA is very badly 
>informed
>>>generally about the realities in Europe ? Also, I bet the writer has some
>>>spurious 'agenda' that influences his writing. It is simply *opinion* and 
>badly
>>>informed opinion at that.
>>>
>>>Graham
>>
>>The WSJ is a neo-con controlled publication-- like the Telegraph in
>>the UK, only much worse. 
>>
>>
>>Best regards, 
>>Spehro Pefhany
>
>Did we read the same article?  Or is it that leftists can't stand
>reading about themselves ?:-)
>
>                                        ...Jim Thompson

Well I agree that is a load of crap from some one with an agenda or
completely blinkered. Though as an ex-military person who is a
capitalist I am not left wing by any means.

-- 
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
/\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org      www.phaedsys.org \/\/\
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/




Article: 95231
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:52:09 GMT
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> Can someone here please advise me why there's this current hysteria about bird
> flu ? I expect bird flu has existed since the dawn of time. What's so dangerous
> about it in 2005/6 ?
> 
> I assume it's just media hype. They found something 'new' to worry us about.

The media are ignorant scum from hell- they will say anything to sell by 
sensationalism. Almost *all* the great plague catastrophes have been 
made by the stupidity of man. There is not a single one that could not 
have been greatly attenuated but for the stupidity, ignorance, and 
irrationality of the ass-wipe institutionalized authority of the day. 
Then there are the punk-assed leaches looking for more funding, it is in 
their interest to misinform, exaggerate, and scare people.



Article: 95232
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Chris Hills <chris@phaedsys.org>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:58:05 +0000
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In article <hacAf.17872$dW3.7962@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> writes
>Hello Chris,
>
>> 
>>>I'm not suggesting this is a bad thing - after five years in the US I am 
>>>actively looking for opportunities elsewhere - I just thought it was an 
>>>interesting question.
>> 
>> It is an interesting question. Part of the answer is to certify or
>> license engineers the same as in other professions. IE like the PE in
>> the US and other countries and the C.Eng in the UK and Eur. Ing in
>> Europe.
>> 
>
>That would diminish the talent pool and be a very efficient method to 
>drive the last employer out of the country. BTW most if not all of 
>Europe has no license laws. Hardly anyone over there knows what a 
>Eur.Ing is, nor do they care about that.
>
>Old rule: The more bureacratic hurdles, the less jobs there will be. 
>Proven time and again.
>
>
>> This means like Doctors, architects civil engineers there is a minimum
>> standard for embedded Engineers. IT also means the salary will stabilise
>> at a reasonable rate and be less effected by sweat shops and unqualified
>> people. 
>> 
>> There are similar qualifications for technicians. This will help remove
>> the unqualified and raise the standard of the profession in general. The
>> problem is that there will be losers in the west as well.  There are
>> probably as many unqualified hackers here as there. 
>> 
>
>So, a university degree is worthless 

The C.Eng requires a degree, More to the point a suitable degree from a
recognised university. 

You also need three supporters who are also C.Eng and are prepared to
sign off on your work experience. 

>and only some bureaucrats get to 
>decide who will have a job and who doesn't? 

All these "bureaucrats" will be at least degree qualified with a lot of
relevant experience behind them.  No one on the panel is not a qualified
Engineer. 

>IMHO, if someone has a 
>degree from a university that shall be enough of a qualification. What 
>difference would some license make?

Well the C.Eng requires the relevant degree from a known university PLUS
several relevant experience plus continued, structured, on the job
training.  So if the C.Eng is used as a level for the license all the
licensed Engineers will be degree qualified and at least 5 years
relevant experience. 

IT is possible to get a C.Eng without a degree but the amount of
relevant experience goes up a LOT (about a decade I think) and they do
expect suitable training and pre-degree qualifications etc

In theory you should only have the Good People licensed but like doctors
some Good People don't manage to pass the exams (brilliant but freak out
at an exam)  and a few Bad People who get though but like doctors and
architects it works 95% of the time.
 

-- 
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
/\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org      www.phaedsys.org \/\/\
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Article: 95233
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Chris Hills <chris@phaedsys.org>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:00:41 +0000
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In article <43d17a37$0$4359$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, David R Brooks <davebXXX@iinet.net.au> writes
>Richard Owlett wrote:
>[snip]
>> I remember a sophomore EE lab requiring us to design a 1 transistor amp. 
>> MANY of my classmates were going to supply tech requesting better than 
>> 1% tolerance on bias resistors. Had reason to suspect they had similar 
>> problems later.
>
>I had a corresponding experience in my first job (some 35 years ago). 
>Newly qualified, I was asked to design a simple Colpitts oscillator: 1 
>transistor, around 2MHz. I fished out my slide-rule, & prepared for a 
>heavy afternoon's maths.

That takes me back a long way... Colpitts and Heartly were the two I
played with :-) Though we used electronic calculators which were just
about affordable then. 

>My mentor stepped in, & said (in effect) "I know that's how they teach 
>you in Uni, but it's not how we do it in the real world". His design 
>logic went:

That is why you go to University to understand the theory and then need
some time of on the job training to understand the practice. However one
is no use without the other.

-- 
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
/\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org      www.phaedsys.org \/\/\
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Article: 95234
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Steve at fivetrees" <steve@NOSPAMTAfivetrees.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:03:43 -0000
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"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message 
news:43D271B7.3060707@nospam.com...
>>
>> You might want to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flu_Epidemic
<snip>
>> Virii don't just "exist since the dawn of time". They mutate.
>
> Not true, they do exist from the dawn of time and usually the mutations 
> are weaker and less viable than the so-called "wild strain."

Ah, I'm sorry, I forgot - evolution is merely a theory. How silly of me.

Steve
http://www.fivetrees.com 



Article: 95235
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Chris Hills <chris@phaedsys.org>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:08:57 +0000
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In article <20060121.7946228.8A7A@mojaveg.iwvisp.com>, Everett M. Greene
<mojaveg@mojaveg.iwvisp.com> writes
>"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:
>> Joerg wrote:
>> > Hello Richard,
>> > 
>> > > ... father was a practicing EE even though is degree was ME. [Back in 20's
>> > > an EE meant 60 cps power but an ME got more background in what we now
>> > > consider to be EE. If he were still alive, he would enjoy this 
>discussion.]
>> > 
>> > MEs did enjoy a more practical background. I have a 1929 ME handbook
>> > from my late father in law. It contains chapters that describe how to
>> > set up cigarette manufacturing lines and breweries ;-)
>> > 
>> > Another book that I saw at a friend's house described radio frequencies
>> > as a "wondrous ether whose practical usage has yet to be determined".
>> > That was from the pre-cell phone days.
>> 
>>    How about the book titles and printing dates?
>
>I borrowed a book from the library titled something akin to
>"Modern Steam Locomotive Construction" first published in
>1894.  It was interesting to note that the designers of the
>locomotives of that era were called master mechanics and
>there was almost nothing about engineering as we think of
>it today in the book.  Apparently strength of materials
>was an unknown subject in those days.

I have a wonderful book called "Modern Electric Practice" It is undated,
though the latest date mentioned in it is 1903,  but it is a stark
reminder NEVER to use the word "modern" in a title :-) 

The pictures of "modern" factories producing some electrical fittings
probably break all the current working practices including child labour!

-- 
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
/\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org      www.phaedsys.org \/\/\
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/




Article: 95236
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:11:52 -0800
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"Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:43D26733.4C03D13E@hotmail.com...
>

> Can someone here please advise me why there's this current hysteria about
bird
> flu ? I expect bird flu has existed since the dawn of time. What's so
dangerous
> about it in 2005/6 ?
>
> I assume it's just media hype. They found something 'new' to worry us
about.

It is believed that a version of bird flu was the virus that infected the
world in 1918.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,171329,00.html



Article: 95237
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:13:09 -0500
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:24:29 PST, the renowned
mojaveg@mojaveg.iwvisp.com (Everett M. Greene) wrote:

>Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> writes:
>> mojaveg@mojaveg.iwvisp.com (Everett M. Greene) wrote:
>> >Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> writes:
>
>> >> Sheeeesh!  If you count the breaks it's even less than 30 hours.
>> >> 
>> >> When I was doing the big motor control project at Bosch in Bühlertal,
>> >> Germany, I'd barely get in the door and they'd break for "breakfast".
>> >
>> >I would think you should have gone with the flow.  If you
>> >were staying at a hotel, you couldn't get a decent breakfast,
>> 
>> You know not of what you speak.  The breakfast buffet at the hotel was
>> fabulous!  In fact all the inns in Bühlertal had great breakfasts.
>
>When I was there, the Nazi-era laws forbade anyone starting
>work early enough to get the makings for a good breakfast
>prepared.  You could have a roll baked the previous day and
>a little cheese or butter to put on it.

When my wife was working in Germany on closing military bases
(environmental cleanup management) the group would sometimes work very
late. The German landlady would come and yell at them and tell them
that it wasn't proper to be working at those hours. 


Best regards, 
Spehro Pefhany
-- 
"it's the network..."                          "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com             Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog  Info for designers:  http://www.speff.com

Article: 95238
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:13:27 GMT
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bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
> 

> You may see it as bullshit, but I guess your discrimination has to be
> totally shot if you can vote for Dubya.


   Once more you are telling blatant lies. I couldn't vote for either
candidate. I had moved not long before the election and I was stuck in
bed for several weeks while registration for the the elections was
open.  Does your ignorance know no bounds?


> Found any weapons of mass destruction recently?


   Only your glaring ignorance, which is only overshadowed by your
fellow Australian Phil Allison.  Tell us all, Bill. Why is it the
biggest assholes on usenet are from Australia?

-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Article: 95239
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "larwe" <zwsdotcom@gmail.com>
Date: 21 Jan 2006 10:16:21 -0800
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:

> fellow Australian Phil Allison.  Tell us all, Bill. Why is it the
> biggest assholes on usenet are from Australia?

Gee, it's nice to be excellent at something. Never heard us described
as the biggest assholes on Usenet before.


Article: 95240
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "M.Kmann" <glumpux@yahoo.de>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:16:55 +0100
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Reg Edwards wrote:
> ...
> That's why Europe is so popular with half-starved immigrants.

and you are the xenophobic clown?

Article: 95241
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Richard the Dreaded Libertarian <eatmyshorts@doubleclick.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:21:31 GMT
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:12:30 +0000, Steve at fivetrees wrote:

> "Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:43D26733.4C03D13E@hotmail.com...
>>
>> Can someone here please advise me why there's this current hysteria about 
>> bird
>> flu ? I expect bird flu has existed since the dawn of time. What's so 
>> dangerous
>> about it in 2005/6 ?
>>
>> I assume it's just media hype. They found something 'new' to worry us 
>> about.
> 
> You might want to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flu_Epidemic
> 
> "The Spanish Flu Pandemic, also known as La Grippe, or La Pesadilla, was an 
> unusually severe and deadly strain of avian influenza, a viral infectious 
> disease, that killed some 50 million to 100 million people worldwide over 
> about a year in 1918 and 1919. It is thought to have been one of the most 
> deadly pandemics so far in human history. It was caused by the H1N1 type of 
> influenza virus, which is similar to bird flu of today, mainly H5N1 and 
> H5N2."
> 
> Virii don't just "exist since the dawn of time". They mutate.
> 
> Steve
> http://www.fivetrees.com

I read somewhere that a major contributing factor was the fact that the
war wounded were stacked up like cordwood in the various hospitals, which
is like ringing the dinner bell for Flu and lots of other diseases.

Thanks,
Rich
-- 
"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo Possum


Article: 95242
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:21:48 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>


Steve at fivetrees wrote:
> "Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message 
> news:43D271B7.3060707@nospam.com...
> 
>>>You might want to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flu_Epidemic
>>
> <snip>
> 
>>>Virii don't just "exist since the dawn of time". They mutate.
>>
>>Not true, they do exist from the dawn of time and usually the mutations 
>>are weaker and less viable than the so-called "wild strain."
> 
> 
> Ah, I'm sorry, I forgot - evolution is merely a theory. How silly of me.
> 
> Steve
> http://www.fivetrees.com 
> 
> 

True it is a theory but nonetheless a virus is a relatively simple 
structure with very few genes in a protein wrapper. There is not much to 
evolve. The probability of mutation is a strong function of the 
complexity of the replication process, as this becomes more multi-staged 
then it is just more chance for genetic defect development, as you might 
expect. Generally the defective strains are not optimized for survival 
of the defect population like the naturally occurring strain. This does 
not mean the defect cannot play hell on the human host, sometimes they 
can be much worse. There is also the problem of host enhancement of 
virulence, which is to say providing an environment conducive to 
mutation of a more deadly and transmissible strain, which although 
vulnerable to extinction in nature, can replicate out of sight if 
allowed quick spread from human to human- it does eventually kill its 
host afterall. Theories have been proposed and animal experiments 
conducted where virus has been induced to mutate in the host to crowd 
out the wild strain replication and kill it, leaving a less virulent 
mutant strain to die out naturally.


Article: 95243
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "M.Kmann" <glumpux@yahoo.de>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:21:50 +0100
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HoustonEngineer wrote:
> Here is an observation - what do y'all think ?
> ...
> 5 - Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
> ...

this is no "observation" at all. just a stupid question mixed with 
xenophobic paranoia.

Article: 95244
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:22:56 GMT
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:44:31 +1300, Simon Peacock wrote:
> "Lanarcam" <lanarcam1@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
>> Bryan Hackney wrote:
>> > SioL wrote:
>> > > "Lanarcam" <lanarcam1@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
> news:1137771805.545861.31220@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > >>Bryan Hackney wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>>And, um, what has Africa ever contributed to the world?
>> > >>
>> > >>No idea?
>> > >
>> > > Homo Sapiens?
>> > >
>> > > Supposedly the first  man or woman came from there.
>> >
>> > That's not certain, but we do know where Newton, Galileo
>> > and Chebyshev are from.
>>
>> And you know where the '0' comes from?
>> Imagine a memory filled with only '1' ;-)
> 
> From India of course :-)  same with the numbers we now use :-)
> 
> Simon

If they came from India, howcome they're called "Arabic numerals"?

Thanks,
Rich




Article: 95245
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Bryan Hackney <no@body.home>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:24:40 GMT
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Chris Hills wrote:
> In article <hc33t1d5gj5ng3upvu1h5vr3a750hrm2sb@4ax.com>, Jim Thompson
> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> writes
> 
>>On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:17:45 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
>><speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:38:20 +0000, the renowned Pooh Bear
>>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Steve Moulding wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:43D17084.F72CB119@hotmail.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John Larkin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:40:48 +0100, Blade <hun@hun.kom> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Strange. I always thought that Europe is declining because we are trying
>>>>>>>>to follow the foolish american social model.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Europe is declining because Europeans aren't breeding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I fail to see what the population has to do with this supposed decline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Could you elaborate ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Graham
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007760
>>>>
>>>>Hmmm... 'opinionionjournal' ! You do realise that the USA is very badly 
>>
>>informed
>>
>>>>generally about the realities in Europe ? Also, I bet the writer has some
>>>>spurious 'agenda' that influences his writing. It is simply *opinion* and 
>>
>>badly
>>
>>>>informed opinion at that.
>>>>
>>>>Graham
>>>
>>>The WSJ is a neo-con controlled publication-- like the Telegraph in
>>>the UK, only much worse. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Best regards, 
>>>Spehro Pefhany
>>
>>Did we read the same article?  Or is it that leftists can't stand
>>reading about themselves ?:-)
>>
>>                                       ...Jim Thompson
> 
> 
> Well I agree that is a load of crap from some one with an agenda or
> completely blinkered. Though as an ex-military person who is a
> capitalist I am not left wing by any means.
> 

The doctor will tell you not to diagnose yourself. If you look like
a duck, walk like a duck, and quack, you are probably a duck.

As for Steyn, predictions are one thing. Can you refute any of his
facts?

As for military service, we have rediscovered that one-time service
is not a perfect lifetime innoculation against mental rot.



Article: 95246
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Bryan Hackney <no@body.home>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:28:02 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
M.Kmann wrote:
> HoustonEngineer wrote:
> 
>> Here is an observation - what do y'all think ?
>> ...
>> 5 - Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
>> ...
> 
> 
> this is no "observation" at all. just a stupid question mixed with
> xenophobic paranoia.

But look at the thread it spawned! There is a lot of pent up boredom.

Article: 95247
Subject: Re: Raggedstone specifications ...
From: "Manuel Bessler" <manuel.bessler@gmail.com>
Date: 21 Jan 2006 10:48:48 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
I've just added the VHDL code and ISE Project files to my webpage.
http://projects.varxec.net/doku.php/raggedstone1


Enjoy,
Manuel


Article: 95248
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:20:16 GMT
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"Everett M. Greene" wrote:
> 
> I borrowed a book from the library titled something akin to
> "Modern Steam Locomotive Construction" first published in
> 1894.  It was interesting to note that the designers of the
> locomotives of that era were called master mechanics and
> there was almost nothing about engineering as we think of
> it today in the book.  Apparently strength of materials
> was an unknown subject in those days.


   The local library system is designed for little kids and retirees.  I
could probably carry ALL of their technical books, from all the branches
by myself, and I have to use a cane in my left hand to keep from
falling.  I used to know a couple used book dealers at flea markets who
would hide any technical books till 	 had a chance to look at them.  I
found some great deals on books that way, like a copy of Skolnik's RADAR
Handbook for $5 (US) and it looked like it had just come from a shelf in
a bookstore.  I also found a copy of the Radiotron Designers Guide for
$5 or $10.

-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Article: 95249
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:22:45 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Steve at fivetrees wrote:
> 
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:43D23E40.1400CB62@earthlink.net...
> > Simon Peacock wrote:
> >>
> >> One of the problems is  the level of literacy.. can you read a university
> >> level book or Doctor Sues.. both are levels of literacy (if at the
> >> extreme)
> >>
> >> Simon
> >
> >   Now, this is funny!  You talk about literacy, and then you get the
> > name wrong. It is Doctor Seuss, who's real name was Ted Geisel.
> 
> ... or indeed "*whose* name was" etc.
> 
> Steve
> http://www.fivetrees.com


   Yes, I missed it.  On the other hand I was limping between two
buildings and working on five computers at the time.  I had stopped for
a quick lunch and didn't take time to proofread it.  I just hit "Send"
as I hurried back out the door.

-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida



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