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Why even bother with Ethernet? Two FPGA's from any vender will talk with very little troubles. Do you need speed or distance? Simon <martinh@qualcomm.com> wrote in message news:mfa2t15d98ot783c0i01p5n279nn3t0s4d@4ax.com... > Has anybody had any showstopping problems when interconnecting > Stratix-II and Virtex4 (EP2S180 & LX200) ? We just want to have a mass > differential interconnect for a source-synchronous interface on > 'left-over' pins for future expansion. Have never used Altera before > but I realize the banking is quite different. > Also, any experiences good or bad with 10GB Ethernet MAC cores from > both Xilinx and Altera ? > > Thanks, > > -MartinArticle: 95101
"Everett M. Greene" wrote: > Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> writes: > > Sheeeesh! If you count the breaks it's even less than 30 hours. > > > > When I was doing the big motor control project at Bosch in Bühlertal, > > Germany, I'd barely get in the door and they'd break for "breakfast". > > I would think you should have gone with the flow. If you > were staying at a hotel, you couldn't get a decent breakfast, > so the zweite fruhstuck was needed to get you to lunchtime. Are you kidding ? On the few occasions I've stayed in a hotel in Germany the buffet breakfast was awesome ! GrahamArticle: 95102
John Larkin wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:13:22 -0500, Spehro Pefhany > <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > > >>Any country that admits as many immigrants as we do, will have a high > >>illiteracy rate. Besides, some countries just lie about it. Do you > >>really think Cuba's literacy rate is 99%? > >> > >>John > > > >Ten times the illiteracy of Iceland? It's possible, although the CIA > >only admits to similar literacy levels to the US (97%), which is far > >worse than what they say about France and Germany (99%). They also say > >99.8% for Poland and 99% for the UK. Cuba has sunk a lot of resources > >into literacy since the sixties, and have exported their training > >methods to greatly improve literacy in some of the poorer Mexican > >states. > > > I don't think a 99% literacy rate is neurologically possible, much > less 99.9. Depends on how you define literacy I guess. The ability to read a McDonald's menu perhaps ? GrahamArticle: 95103
John Larkin wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:40:48 +0100, Blade <hun@hun.kom> wrote: > > > >>Strange. I always thought that Europe is declining because we are trying >>to follow the foolish american social model. > > > Europe is declining because Europeans aren't breeding. So far, we > don't have that problem in the USA. Well, since England has 3x the polulation of China maybe we could do with 3x less of us on this bit of land? FFF Dirk The Consensus:- The political party for the new millenium http://www.theconsensus.orgArticle: 95104
Davy wrote: > Hi all, > > I am new to demodulation and FEC. > > How can I get each bit's soft-probability from the constellation? > For example, the modulation method is 16QAM, How can I get > P(bit1=0),P(bit2=0),P(bit3=0),P(bit4=0) from a symbol? > > Is it belong to the subject of detection and need viterbi algorithm? > > Or can you recommend some key words of this subject? > > Best regards, > Davy > Viterbi decoding comes after soft decision making; the only real connection is that Viterbi decoding is enhanced by soft decisions. Mike's response is the correct one: you use Baysian estimation to figure out what the probability that a certain bit was transmitted. You need to know the probability density function of your noise and have a pretty good grasp of the signal characteristics for it to work right. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.comArticle: 95105
John Larkin wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:40:48 +0100, Blade <hun@hun.kom> wrote: > > >Strange. I always thought that Europe is declining because we are trying > >to follow the foolish american social model. > > Europe is declining because Europeans aren't breeding. I fail to see what the population has to do with this supposed decline. Could you elaborate ? GrahamArticle: 95106
In article <1137788084.598497.74380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, comp.arch.fpga.FAQ@gmail.com wrote: > Hello everyone > > While I was browsing the newsgroup, I noticed a lot of junk messages > all over the place. Maybe we could get rid of some of them by setting > up a newsgroup FAQ. This will hopefully makes things (a little) easier > for those of us who use this newsgroup on a daily basis. > > The topics I had in mind were things like > > 1. what to NOT post here. you know, things like this > > hi, my name is XXX and bla bla bla....what is wrong with me code: > <followed by 300 lines of badly written poorly formatted brain dead > VHDL> > > 2. how to NOT write your messages. things like > > "can u ppl help me? cuz i have no time 4 doing it myself" > > > 3. post you should NOT answer (most of the posts in point one plus some > stuff that leads to flamewars, you known which ones) > > 4. most often requested information (good books, links and so on) > > 5. technical stuff that is good to know for the old and new visitors. > > so what do you think? > > your anonymous Dr FAQ > > PS. we probably need one for the VHDL and Verilog groups too :( Spammers dont read FAQ's..Article: 95107
Bryan Hackney wrote:
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/22/world/main682341.shtml
>
> 35 then. Excuse me.
Well, please do not extrapolate this on all the European countries.
That website is about France and thus it is, um... self-explanatory. ;-)))
Despite the fact that we call ourselves "European Union", there is
no essential unification between our countries in this field. Each
country has its own regulations, so no French labour time limit is
applicable in, for example, Poland and vice versa. Here we have
40 hours/week + overtime, if necessary.
Best regards
Piotr Wyderski
--
"If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use?
Two strong oxen or 1024 chickens?" -- Seymour Cray
Article: 95108Symon wrote: > <comp.arch.fpga.FAQ@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1137789842.944573.325940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>Yes, I KNOW about that one. >> > > Sorry, I just wondered why you didn't mention it! > >>Do you really think our first time visitors visit that site before >>doing their first post? >> > > I curious as to how a FAQ++ solves this problem. > >>Just cross-check the newsgroup and the FAQ and >>you will notice that people does not seem to care much about that >>site.Besides, it's on Fliptronics site. They can take it down when ever >>they want. >> > > Good point. I wouldn't trust them either. Probably run by some dodgy > fly-by-night bloke. > > Good luck, Syms. > > This one is good. It isn't really restricted to DSP, even though it's billed that way: http://users.erols.com/jyavins/procfaq.htm -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.comArticle: 95109
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:08:10 +0000, Pooh Bear
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>"Everett M. Greene" wrote:
>
>> Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> writes:
>> > Sheeeesh! If you count the breaks it's even less than 30 hours.
>> >
>> > When I was doing the big motor control project at Bosch in Bühlertal,
>> > Germany, I'd barely get in the door and they'd break for "breakfast".
>>
>> I would think you should have gone with the flow. If you
>> were staying at a hotel, you couldn't get a decent breakfast,
>> so the zweite fruhstuck was needed to get you to lunchtime.
>
>Are you kidding ?
>
>On the few occasions I've stayed in a hotel in Germany the buffet breakfast
>was awesome !
>
>Graham
Absolutely!
One time my wife spotted some fresh blackberries in a farmers' market
in Baden-Baden. She took them down to breakfast to put in her cereal.
Everyone was asking, "I can't find the blackberries on the buffet" ;-)
Me, I liked all the cold cuts, sausages and boiled eggs ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Article: 95110
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:11:30 +0000, Pooh Bear
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>John Larkin wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:13:22 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
>> <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
>>
>> >>Any country that admits as many immigrants as we do, will have a high
>> >>illiteracy rate. Besides, some countries just lie about it. Do you
>> >>really think Cuba's literacy rate is 99%?
>> >>
>> >>John
>> >
>> >Ten times the illiteracy of Iceland? It's possible, although the CIA
>> >only admits to similar literacy levels to the US (97%), which is far
>> >worse than what they say about France and Germany (99%). They also say
>> >99.8% for Poland and 99% for the UK. Cuba has sunk a lot of resources
>> >into literacy since the sixties, and have exported their training
>> >methods to greatly improve literacy in some of the poorer Mexican
>> >states.
>>
>>
>> I don't think a 99% literacy rate is neurologically possible, much
>> less 99.9.
>
>Depends on how you define literacy I guess. The ability to read a
>McDonald's menu perhaps ?
>
>Graham
Naaah! How to press the buttons on a McD cash register ;-)
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
It's what you learn, after you know it all, that counts.
Article: 95111"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message news:43d950F1mfm70U2@individual.net... >> Europe is declining because Europeans aren't breeding. >> So far, we don't have that problem in the USA. Well it's not for a lack of interest on this European's part, I can tell you. Attractive, slim, intelligent, single women are scarce in the UK. Maybe they don't have a problem with ugly fat stupid or married women in the USA? I guess being slightly plump is the least of these turn-offs. Perhaps that explains the high obesity rates in the USA? > Well, since England has 3x the population of China maybe we could do with > 3x less of us on this bit of land? Yes, I'd certainly welcome a decrease in population density. I might then be able to afford to buy a house here!Article: 95112
John Larkin wrote:
> Do you really think Cuba's literacy rate is 99%?
Yes, I do; I would even say that this rate is very low.
Best regards
Piotr Wyderski
--
"If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use?
Two strong oxen or 1024 chickens?" -- Seymour Cray
Article: 95113Richard Owlett wrote: [snip] > I remember a sophomore EE lab requiring us to design a 1 transistor amp. > MANY of my classmates were going to supply tech requesting better than > 1% tolerance on bias resistors. Had reason to suspect they had similar > problems later. I had a corresponding experience in my first job (some 35 years ago). Newly qualified, I was asked to design a simple Colpitts oscillator: 1 transistor, around 2MHz. I fished out my slide-rule, & prepared for a heavy afternoon's maths. My mentor stepped in, & said (in effect) "I know that's how they teach you in Uni, but it's not how we do it in the real world". His design logic went: 1. Supply voltage = 9V (that's what we've got available) 2. Transistor = BC109 (the stores are knee-deep in them) 3. Ic = 5mA (known by experience to work well) 4. Bias chain current = Ic/10 (ditto) 5. Vb = Vcc/3 (ditto) Now solve out the resistors, & give me a parts list. He signed the list, I took it to the stores & got the bits, & 20 minutes later, the oscillator was running. Theory vs Practice. "Theory: when you understand all about it, but can't make it work." "Practice: when it works, but no-one knows why." - Seen in a German office, 1974 (translation mine)Article: 95114
Tobias Weingartner wrote: > The only advice I was hoping to offer was one of "please reconsider opening > the bitstream format". > Tobias, just to remind you, the following is what you wrote, and that is what I strongly take exception to: "I'm no VLSI designer, but I can't imagine that putting a simple AES engine onto the FPGA, along with some OTP ram for the key, would take any significant room. As a bonus, you may be able to offer the simple AES engine for the FPGA to use once programming is done." That's what I call simplistic and un-informed advice. I want to avoid the bovine excrement word... Peter AlfkeArticle: 95115
"Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43D17084.F72CB119@hotmail.com... > > > John Larkin wrote: > >> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:40:48 +0100, Blade <hun@hun.kom> wrote: >> >> >Strange. I always thought that Europe is declining because we are trying >> >to follow the foolish american social model. >> >> Europe is declining because Europeans aren't breeding. > > I fail to see what the population has to do with this supposed decline. > > Could you elaborate ? > > Graham > http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007760Article: 95116
Jim Thompson wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:08:10 +0000, Pooh Bear > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >"Everett M. Greene" wrote: > > > >> Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> writes: > >> > Sheeeesh! If you count the breaks it's even less than 30 hours. > >> > > >> > When I was doing the big motor control project at Bosch in Bühlertal, > >> > Germany, I'd barely get in the door and they'd break for "breakfast". > >> > >> I would think you should have gone with the flow. If you > >> were staying at a hotel, you couldn't get a decent breakfast, > >> so the zweite fruhstuck was needed to get you to lunchtime. > > > >Are you kidding ? > > > >On the few occasions I've stayed in a hotel in Germany the buffet breakfast > >was awesome ! > > > >Graham > > Absolutely! > > One time my wife spotted some fresh blackberries in a farmers' market > in Baden-Baden. She took them down to breakfast to put in her cereal. > Everyone was asking, "I can't find the blackberries on the buffet" ;-) > > Me, I liked all the cold cuts, sausages and boiled eggs ;-) > > ...Jim Thompson Actually, whilst German cuisine doesn't really make the headlines they certainly do know how to start the day off ! The temptation is just too much. Only other place I've seen the likes was in China btw. Again, an absolute feast. This one in fact... http://www.nanhai-hotel.com/ GrahamArticle: 95117
In article <u3bjjb4d6.fsf@trw.com>, Martin Thompson <martin.j.thompson@trw.com> wrote: >ptkwt@aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) writes: > > >> Is XDL described anywhere? Grammar or BNF? Or is it based on XML? (probably >> not likely, but one can wish) > >Yes, no, and no :-) > >It's described in comments in the XDL file itself: > Yes, I discovered this yesterday when I was running xdl and looked at the outupt. I suppose that's conventient. >Here's some of them pasted out of one of mine: ># ======================================================= ># The syntax for the design statement is: ># design <design_name> <part> <ncd version>; ># or ># design <design_name> <device> <package> <speed> <ncd_version> ; ># ======================================================= ># The syntax for instances is: ># instance <name> <sitedef>, placed <tile> <site>, cfg <string> ; ># or ># instance <name> <sitedef>, unplaced, cfg <string> ; ># ># The syntax for nets is: ># net <name> <type>, ># outpin <inst_name> <inst_pin>, ># . ># . ># inpin <inst_name> <inst_pin>, ># . ># . ># pip <tile> <wire0> <dir> <wire1> , # [<rt>] ># . ># . ># ; ># >etc..etc... >More details then follow on some of the details. > >So it is fairly straightforward to understand, assuming you >understand the architecture it's talking about already... > >I have made a start on a python parser for XDL which creates a >pysqlite database as the backend. Conekt owns it, but they may be >persuaded to open source it.. I wonder... > Well, I was planning on starting a Ruby-based XDL parser in a week or two. Looks like it'll be easy. It'll be open source. Though, I do wonder: once we have an XDL parser, what's the next step? PhilArticle: 95118
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:07:58 -0700, "Steve Moulding"
<fti1983@xmission.com> wrote:
>
>"Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:43D17084.F72CB119@hotmail.com...
>>
>>
>> John Larkin wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:40:48 +0100, Blade <hun@hun.kom> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Strange. I always thought that Europe is declining because we are trying
>>> >to follow the foolish american social model.
>>>
>>> Europe is declining because Europeans aren't breeding.
>>
>> I fail to see what the population has to do with this supposed decline.
>>
>> Could you elaborate ?
>>
>> Graham
>>
>
>http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007760
>
Unfortunately that attitude includes that of the USA :-(
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
It's what you learn, after you know it all, that counts.
Article: 95119Symon wrote: > > > > Good point. I wouldn't trust them either. Probably run by some dodgy > fly-by-night bloke. > Symon, maybe this was meant in jest, but that is hard to tell. Fliptronics is owned and run by Philip Freidin, who definitely is not a "dodgy fly-by-night bloke". I have known Philip for over 25 years. We have worked together in two companies, and while we may have had our fights, I deeply repect him for his serious dedication and his competence and tenacity. So, please save those insulting remarks for more deserving "blokes". Peter AlfkeArticle: 95120
In article <3p12t1tq1vqg98k7uf8o53e709irleahj6@4ax.com>, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On 20 Jan 2006 05:44:00 -0800, "Noway2" <no_spam_me2@hotmail.com> >wrote: > >>> The current US administration seems to be >>> obsessed with investing in military adventures, while places like India have >>> decided to invest in educating their people - which investment do you think >>> will pay off better in 20 years? It's all a matter of priorities. >> >>It is no secrete that the US, both the mass populace and the government >>administrations put far too little emphasis on education and this is >>causing a declining society. > >How is US society declining? Incomes, health, longevity, education >levels have been increasing steadily for 200 years, even while we have >admitted tens of millions of immigrants. But have incomes really been increasing over the last 20 years? My income is essentially the same as it was five years ago (actually less) and I don't have health benefits now as I did then (I contract off and on now). ...though I do have more free time at this point so I suppose you could say this was a willing trade. However, I talk to lots of people who really aren't making more than they were five years ago and have less benefits. To some extent, I suppose this fall in incomes is inevitable given the global pressure on wages. But people in the US now certainly feel that things are less stable than they were a decade ago (less permanent jobs, more temporary or contract jobs). As far as other ways the US is declining: Well one of the big ones is that we have zero to slightly negative savings rates now. That's not sustainable longterm. Sure our real estate prices have gone up in the last few years, but that's mostly just paper gain (If you sell your house, you still need somewhere to live so if you buy another house you end up paying more anyway). PhilArticle: 95121
Don Bowey wrote: > <amyler@eircom.net> wrote: > >> If you were a european I'd credit you with subtle use of irony.... >> >> But I'm sure you're a nice guy really :-) > > No, he isn't. > > By the way, notice how I quoted your post so everyone can see the > relevance of my post? Monkey see, monkey do, please. He thinks everybody has all the preceding posts spread out on the screen. He is wrong. He's a googler, and most googlers are usenet illiterate, which is fostered by the impossibly bad google interface. He should read my sig below, and especially the URL reference. -- "If you want to post a followup via groups.google.com, don't use the broken "Reply" link at the bottom of the article. Click on "show options" at the top of the article, then click on the "Reply" at the bottom of the article headers." - Keith Thompson More details at: <http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/>Article: 95122
Some topics I would like to see addressed in the FAQ: Something about all the myriad file formats Xilinx's tools (ISE & others) use, e.g. what all these three-letter acronyms mean: "... but the XDL (or NCD) does __not__ contain bitstream info, it does hold the design info that is not mapped to the bitstream by bitgen later. NCD (that can be viewed as XDL after conversion) is used together with BFD (NeoCad Bitstream Format Database ?) file by bitgen for actual bitstream generation. there are some other files for each family, like GRD, etc I am able to view pretty much all of the files used by Xilinx tools, (NGC, NCD, etc) but..." (This was from Antti's recent message. And why not to add a whole topic about bitstream generation as well?) Other thing I (and many others) have needed: Basics about using Xilinx's DCM-stuff. Concrete examples in VHDL and Verilog. And what one writes to UCF-files? Yes, I know a lot's of this stuff can be found from their appnotes, if one has time to browse through them. Yours, Veli IgorArticle: 95123
Steve Moulding wrote: > "Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:43D17084.F72CB119@hotmail.com... > > > > > > John Larkin wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:40:48 +0100, Blade <hun@hun.kom> wrote: > >> > >> >Strange. I always thought that Europe is declining because we are trying > >> >to follow the foolish american social model. > >> > >> Europe is declining because Europeans aren't breeding. > > > > I fail to see what the population has to do with this supposed decline. > > > > Could you elaborate ? > > > > Graham > > > > http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007760 Hmmm... 'opinionionjournal' ! You do realise that the USA is very badly informed generally about the realities in Europe ? Also, I bet the writer has some spurious 'agenda' that influences his writing. It is simply *opinion* and badly informed opinion at that. GrahamArticle: 95124
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:36:54 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:11:30 +0000, Pooh Bear ><rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>John Larkin wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:13:22 -0500, Spehro Pefhany >>> <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: >>> >>> >>Any country that admits as many immigrants as we do, will have a high >>> >>illiteracy rate. Besides, some countries just lie about it. Do you >>> >>really think Cuba's literacy rate is 99%? >>> >> >>> >>John >>> > >>> >Ten times the illiteracy of Iceland? It's possible, although the CIA >>> >only admits to similar literacy levels to the US (97%), which is far >>> >worse than what they say about France and Germany (99%). They also say >>> >99.8% for Poland and 99% for the UK. Cuba has sunk a lot of resources >>> >into literacy since the sixties, and have exported their training >>> >methods to greatly improve literacy in some of the poorer Mexican >>> >states. >>> >>> >>> I don't think a 99% literacy rate is neurologically possible, much >>> less 99.9. >> >>Depends on how you define literacy I guess. The ability to read a >>McDonald's menu perhaps ? >> >>Graham > >Naaah! How to press the buttons on a McD cash register ;-) > > ...Jim Thompson Don't the buttons have pictures of the food on them? In some overseas McD restaurants they have laminated cards with pictures of the food items on them so that illiterates who only know English and not the local language can order unhealthy food. I did some work for a major equipment supplier of a certain large clown related restaurant chain- they have very high standards on how simple the devices have to be to operate. I think the alphas are the ones at the counter- the epsilon-minus ones can, at times, if present, be found in back. Thank goodness most of us use Arabic numerals at least sometimes, so most people on earth can understand them. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
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